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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:40 PM
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WRITERS STRIKE AT 12:01 AM MONDAY; Zero Chance Of An 11th Hour Settlement
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/hollywood-writers-strike-starts-monday/

The Writers Guild Of America's 12,000 membership will begin picketing at the major movie studios and television networks later in the day Monday. They were told that all writing covered under WGA agreements must cease when the strike starts. No last-minute talks to avert the crippling walkout are yet scheduled for this weekend after negotiations collapsed Wednesday night.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:42 PM
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1. Awww. Bummer. Now it'll be RERUNS of the same lousy shit that is on most days. NT
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:44 PM
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3. yes, it's all about You... nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:52 PM
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Of course it's all about ME. And anyone else who looks at the tube, at the end of the day.
It ain't a fucking CHARITY. The purpose of their jobs is to grind out product for the tee vee market. That product is delivered to ME, a customer, in the hopes that I will look at it and buy the things flashed on the screen in continuous, annoying interruptions of the weak plots and foolish constructs.

The market will end up bearing what the market will bear. Either one side or the other will prevail.

But my friends who are soap opera fans will get cranky if this shit isn't resolved soon, and that is unpleasant, so yes, it IS all about me.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:03 PM
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8. So because you are inconvenienced
you don't think the writers have a right to petition for a decent wage? And if rebuffed they don't have a right to refuse to work?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:33 PM
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12. Reading this thread makes me think I made a wrong turn on Google this afternoon. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:05 PM
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16. Did I say that? No, I didn't. Learn to READ, why doncha?
No wonder the comprehension difficulty of Tee Vee shows is so dumbed down in the past few decades....the spoken word is as much of a challenge as the written one, apparently.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:32 PM
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11. the market will bear lies.
good gracious isnt that evident?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:04 PM
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15. No it won't. Not over the long haul. nt
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:42 PM
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2. Great, watch for more crap reality TV.
Grrrrr.... It's like the writer's equivilent of shipping the jobs to China.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:44 PM
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4. I just hope the current seasons of Smallville and Supernatural are finished.
That's about all I really care about. Well, that, Heroes, and whatever looks good as I'm channel flipping. :)
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:21 PM
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19. SUPERNATURAL!!! YAY!!!!
I so rarely see anyone mention the existence of this show and it is one of my absolutely favorites! WOOT!!!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:44 PM
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5. Union, YES. More power to them and I support them unequivocally. nt
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:51 PM
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6. I lived through the last WGA strike
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 05:53 PM by Mike03
My timing in life has always been awful. I'd just graduated from film school and gotten my first real agent when the strike happened. Because I was still wet behind the ears, some producers felt I might be a potential scab, but of course I didn't want to begin my career as a traitor. But those were tough times. They would call and ask for material, and I had to say no, even though I was not yet in the Guild, because I knew that even to violate Guild rules as an aspiring writer would destroy my career forever. And then on the other hand, you piss off a lot of producers and developers, who are your meal ticket.

My heart goes out to the writers, especially the ones that are not very successful or just barely making ends meet. It's really dog eat dog in the screenwriting business.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:38 PM
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13. an awkward position to be in ...
"They would call and ask for material, and I had to say no" -- kudos to you for standing your ground. Not an easy thing to do when there doesn't seem to be any immediate benefit, and nobody's thanking you. I admire your principles.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:17 PM
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17. Thanks
Luckily I had a good job at that time as an assistant at a documentary film company, and also working on a feature as an assistant.

The real reason I posted this is because I think some folks think writers in Hollywood all make huge amounts of money, but it's not true for the majority, just the very top percentile.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:52 PM
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7. For the first time in my life, I'm a union member.
I fully support the WGA.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:24 PM
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9. I hate TV so much I rarely watch anything other than news and PBS.
But this damned strike is REALLY gonna hit our local economy hard. When the entertainment industry grinds to a halt, so does everything else.

:mad:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:30 PM
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10. That's the whole point, isn't it? And if your area lives and dies by the entertainment industry,
I can't feel a whole lot of empathy, sorry.

Union, YES. Always.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:58 PM
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14. I totally support unions. But I don't like the idea of going hungry myself
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 07:00 PM by kestrel91316
because the writers aren't happy with their already adequate income. Small business people like me will be the first to suffer. We ALWAYS are.

Oh, and BTW: I hope you have to go hungry or cold some day, too. Thanks for the kind thoughts.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 09:32 AM
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21. Most screenwriters don't make near as much as you think, just as most actors have
to struggle to make a living wage.

The vast majority live hand to mouth like most of us do. Average screenwriter income may look good because there are a few who can demand and get a million for their work. But mean income for screenwrtiters is considerably more dismal, just as it is for actors.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:19 PM
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18. Not just Television
This affects screenwriters as well, even famous directors who write their own screenplays and are in the WGA.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 09:38 AM
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22. Most screenplays are already in the can
The strike will only cause a slight ripple in the film industry.

For television, the late night talk shows (including Daily Show, Colbert, Letterman, etc.) will instantly go into reruns, since that stuff is usually written same-day. Scripted TV shows should last until the end of the year before they run out.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:30 PM
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20. This one is so tough...
Let me start with this disclaimer. I worked for the DGA in the legal department during the last negotiations and was friends with one of the top SAG attorneys at the same time, so I have a little bit of insight into the PREVIOUS goings on, but have tried not to keep up with the current struggle, less I get dragged back in but...


My understanding is that the entire fight stems from DVD Revenues and Internet streaming revenues (the former was an ugly point in the last round, as the WGA kinda got screwed).

From the bit I have been reading, it seems to me that both sides are being a bit pig headed. The producers/studios HAVE TO start giving revenue to the talent based on these sales. HOWEVER, it is really unreasonable for the writers to asked for a fixed cost on these sales (which is what I have read they are asking for... please correct me if I am wrong... I don't want to call anyone I know b/c I will wind up doing work I don't want to do). A fixed cost, ESPECIALLY in internet steaming is difficult to give, because the revenue steam isn't fixed yet. Producers/Studios have no idea how much this medium will be worth or how they are even going to generate revenue from it (commercials, pay per view, etc). Even in DVD's it is difficult, b/c popular shows will sell for more than less popular ones. You can get a whole season of some shows for 19.99, while similar number of episodes from a different show will go for $69.99. Should the studios pay the identical residual for both of those properties???

I ultimately side with the writers on this one, because the studios don't seem to want to give at all... but I wish the WGA would come up with some more creative alternatives.
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