Liar, liar, (Giuliani's) pants on fire

Can this bastard tell the truth about anything? :shrug:


from TPM:


Rudy's Dissembling About Health Care Expands To Another Front: Breast Cancer
By Greg Sargent and Eric Kleefeld - November 1, 2007, 4:15PM


The other day, Rudy released a now-notorious ad claiming that the survival rate from prostate cancer is much higher in America than in Britain, showing what a failure socialized medicine has been. That claim was thoroughly debunked, however.

So will Rudy stop making the false claim? Far from it. Not only has he continued to mouth the same falsehood in the days after the claim was knocked down, but he's also expanded the dissembling about health care to another front: Breast cancer.

Check out this Rudy appearance on Fox News, which took place well after the initial claims had been widely proven false: http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/rudy_breast_cancer.php



As you can see, Rudy repeated the same claims about prostate cancer, but he also added this:

"The same thing is true of women with breast cancer — the chance of surviving in the United States for a woman, much greater than in France, or in England or in Canada, or in Cuba where Michael Moore would like us all to go for health care."


The only problem with this is that it's outright false.

Looking at the relative survival rate — that is, the rate of people who survived five years after adjusting for people who died of causes other than the cancer — America's advantages over those countries prove to be very modest indeed, and can be attributed to a whole variety of factors.

According to the American Cancer Society, the five-year relative survival rate for breast cancer in America is 89%. That's an impressive figure, and one of the best in the world. But Rudy's claim that the likelihood of survival is "much greater" than in these other countries is just plain wrong on the facts.

In Britain, the five-year relative survival rate for breast cancer is 81% — only 8 percentage points lower than in America. Meanwhile, the relative survival rate in Canada stands at 86% — only 3 points lower than in America. We're looking for stats on France and will share them if and when we find them. ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/rudy_breast_cancer.php

She's actually a registered nurse and an expert on terrorism to boot.