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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:19 PM Original message |
Taser used on Trick or Treater! |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. That Will Teach Kids Proper Respect for the Law, All Right! |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. Here Ya Go... |
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Sanity Claws (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Why did he follow her when she walked off? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
139. That's what I was thinking too |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
158. Yes, he was looking to create an incident so he could tase her. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #158 |
183. i didnt hear about the man on the couch. anyway you could find a link for me |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #183 |
210. Here's the thread about the man being tased while asleep on his couch: |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #210 |
211. thanks. this was the first thread i came to this morning. later found |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #211 |
225. You're welcome. This stuff really pisses me off, too. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #225 |
226. some DUers actually rationalizing and justifying it! ... they are MORE responsible |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #226 |
233. I agree. People of conscience have GOT to take a stand against authoritarianism. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Thanx |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Hate to be that guy, |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. The girl .seemed dumb, but she was also young. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #28 |
159. Very well put and I'm starting to think maybe we |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #159 |
256. I hear you |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Was he in uniform?? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
168. I'd say he was out of line even if he was in uniform. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
58. I must wonder at the "ethical calculus" that regards vulgar speech a greater wrong ... |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
98. Hmm, this happened in the Confederate State of Georgia... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #98 |
160. In PENNSYLVANIA, man sleeping on couch in his own home tasered. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #160 |
185. ignore my post above. thanks for the info n/t |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
165. The off-duty officer was patrolling Trotter's Ridge |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
213. Her cussing might upset the other children? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #213 |
217. first they cuff, then they taser. yes, i agree, quite a site for our little |
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Sugar Smack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #213 |
236. The other kids were old enough to go out by themselves, and if that |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. Here's some of the text... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. was "forced" to user a Taser--she was HANDCUFFED already!!! |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
92. "The off-duty officer was patrolling Trotter's Ridge subdivision ..." |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #92 |
140. That didn't make sense to me either |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:40 AM Response to Reply #140 |
154. me either. Off duty cop thinks he's THE LAW. |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. 14 is too old for Trick or Treating |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:29 PM Original message |
Not in our neighborhood. (NT) |
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LiberalVoice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. But not old enough to be tasered. nt |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. i agree , but how does that make it okay? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. lots of teens go T and T-------nothing wrong with that |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. That's right, so tase her! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. so tase all 13 and above trick or treaters? about stupid n/t |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. WHAT? 14 is a child ffs! dont be ridicules. |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
77. What is ridicules? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. The only reply you respond to is for a misspelled word. |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Well so far |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
72. Nonsense. Among the most fun groups to visit my house was a group of 9th graders. |
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Roy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
114. But not too old for tasering, after trying to peacefully leave his presence? |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #114 |
136. Sorry, I was conducting an experiment |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #136 |
144. Deleted message |
taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #144 |
186. I think life is too short to call people asshole without a really good reason |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #136 |
176. I read this response after responding to you... |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #136 |
215. I agree with you |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
175. Is that supposed to have anything to do with her getting tasered? |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
214. But, not too young for tasering. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
231. 1000000% agreement here! |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #231 |
252. Finally, a voice of reason in this thread |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. Almost scarier are the comments following the story. Sigh. n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. The girl's foster mother was not surprised at the girl's behavior. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. And the foster mother hasn't filed a complaint against the officer either |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
161. Some foster parents are just doing it for the money, not |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #161 |
250. I agree |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
218. That jumped out at me also. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #218 |
219. i also want to know if the attempted punch was her jerking her arm out |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #218 |
323. if he said grabbed, he knew he would be in trouble. gotta say touch. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
240. Good point, too, you'd think this modern nation would have better |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
9. Any cop who can't handle a 14-year old girl trick or treating should turn in his badge |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
10. she got the trick - not the treat |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. "The teenager did not sustain any serious injuries." |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. and i had two teenage boys be abusive and i told them to get off property in mother tone |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. i was a juvenile parole officer, 4% of delinquents r female, but 1will give you the grief of 20 boys |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. damn, for an adult to have to deal with grief. hey..... i havent |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. but i hope you are not suggesting a grown MALE had no other way of dealing |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
108. and what if those two teenage males |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #108 |
115. i dont live life in what ifs of fears to allow fear to control my life when the odds are so far |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. You are the one that brought up this |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. cops tld her to knock it off. she walked away. cop stopped her. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #117 |
220. The way I read it, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #220 |
222. but that is ok too, cause the cop gets to hold her there until he deems |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #222 |
291. Way to misrepresent my position |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
129. i do not agree with his tactics, but know how mentally ill some of the girls were, we had attempted |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. after her when she left, i'd a said good riddence..sounds like perpetuated and inflamed |
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lazer47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #129 |
178. so now you want to taze mentally ill, ???? That makes sense |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. is it normal for off duty cops to patrol? |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. He may have been working a private security job. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
21. Because it takes a taser for a grown man to take down a 14 y/o girl. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. but cops use it ONLY as last resort, dontcha know. that is what i am told by supporter |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. He did use it as a last resort. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. a taser is supposed to be instead of DEADLY FORCE... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. because she dared to continue being disrespectful to cop. seems that is the most |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
91. She punched him in the face |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. then he cuffed her. she is now being arrested for that. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. After being cuffed |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. two cops not one. cant put her in the car? i dont believe it. n/t |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Were you there? |
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Sugar Smack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #106 |
235. You know, I can't think of that situation in terms of escalation |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #235 |
292. But that's not the progression of events.` |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #292 |
305. After #5, the cop should have pushed her away and let her go her own way. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #305 |
307. Listen |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #307 |
314. For sure. |
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lazer47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #100 |
179. Prehaps she should just roll over and play dead and be |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #100 |
224. And maybe it wouldn't have happened if he hadn't decided to |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #224 |
293. We don't know he did that |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #293 |
301. A man touching a strange woman deserves whatever he gets. n/t |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #301 |
306. Really |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #306 |
315. You gotta keep up with the news, dude. |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
331. EXACTLY...I can hear it now because I was a smart mouthed kid myself |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Sorry, I should have used the sarcasm smiley. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
84. You pegged it right there. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #84 |
162. Yep. They escalate a situation so they can use their new phallic symbol. |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
259. Tasers are NOT a replacement for deadly force. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #259 |
260. tell that to the dead people who were tased. sure they will appreciate it. n/t |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. Too bad she didn't say, "Sorry officer, I'll stop with the colorful language and keep my voice down" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. and too bad we dont live in utopia. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Too bad you think its "utopic" to comply with a lawful request from a police officer |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. what is utopic is you feel all will behave in your confined little image of how the world should be |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
94. So |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #94 |
110. As she started to walk off, Spellman said, the officer told her to stop and touched her arm. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. You are making that up. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. so |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Way to move the goal posts, champ |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. 6 in the morning i was held at airport being wand... like a criminal |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #128 |
149. 7:30 this morning |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:14 AM Response to Reply #149 |
150. no, but then i dont expect much more out of you. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #150 |
151. Where have I ever indicated blind support? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:48 AM Response to Reply #151 |
153. simply, you can see a need to taser a 14 yr old girl, cuffed, with two MALE cops |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #151 |
187. another of the growing example of "just" tasering |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:55 PM Original message |
Lawful request? More like a cop using the handy catch-all charge when a person has ticked him off. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
54. he didn't try to detain her at 1st -- only asked her to stop. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. He detained her because she wouldn't stop swearing --that's weak. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #54 |
164. What part of "off duty cop" don't you get? He had no authority |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #164 |
296. I don't have statutes in front of me |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
113. A very-near-future lawful request: "Your papers, please..." |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #113 |
148. Slippery Slope |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #148 |
184. It's not all that different. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. He was off duty! How was she suppose to know he was a cop? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Maybe the police car might have been the first clue. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. she was handcuffed and controlled. he tasered her as punishment for continued |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. BINGO!. . . n/t |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. the paper report said she was more than just verbally belligerent , she was punching the car |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Maybe he cuffed her in the front and not the back |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. thats possible. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. unlikely... they are not allowed to cuff in front. so if he did, his ass should be tasered |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Do you have a link saying they're not allowed? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. you will have to talk to police department yourself. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. I just don't know if that's standard across the board |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. if he unjustifiably didn't follow procedure he should be punished. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. he did by the simple fact of zapping her..... as last resort. he was a bad cop or inadaquit cop |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #68 |
109. Again, you were there? n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #109 |
119. spport the abuse of police with the argument of "where you there" |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. You are going off on this cop without knowing anything |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. you are putting conjectures all over for the cops behavior |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. So there is no time |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #63 |
198. Wake-Up! "Procedures" are written by people. Not imposed by God. OK? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. like they have done decades in the past.... pick her up and put her in |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. in days of old the police " cracked skulls" -- what mythic past are you referring too. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:07 PM Original message |
oh bullshit, when they did they got their ass charged. that is a bunch of crap |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
59. believe what you will, but police have been and will be allowed to use pain to gain compliance |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. you are totally ignoring the "reasonable" part of the equation. how convenient n/t |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. convenient -- only because you just realized you didn't know what you're talking about. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. bullshit. i know if a cop crack a skull for this in the past they would be in trouble |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. "cracking skulls" is just one of many expressions to imply the use of pain for compliance. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. a parent slaps the face for cussing/ a cop tasers for cussing |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. read the article again, she wasn'te tasered for cussing. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. she was tasered because the cop abused his power. and you are endorsing his abuse |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Saying I am endosing abuse is like me saying you're endorsing teens committing crimes |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. she cussed. you cussed. that is not a crime. and yes, you are endorsing abuse n/t |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. I think it was the punching of the cop, not the cussing |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #88 |
103. Her cussing would be disorderly conduct and is a crime. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. The article didn't say anything about a police car! |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. "The officer stated she was extremely combative and he was unable to get her into the patrol car," |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. I didn't see that. But that still doesn't make cussing against the law! |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. cussing isn't against the law. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
107. It's unclear if the writer means a black-and-white car or just... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #34 |
166. People can buy old police cars and fix them up to |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #166 |
177. Some police forces give their cars to officers ful time. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
96. So ask to see his ID |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #96 |
105. do you imagine that. like i imagine when she turns to walk away |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #105 |
118. Since we are "imagining" |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #96 |
111. If you really expect a rational reaction from a pissed off 14 year old |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #111 |
120. And is a kid that is continuing |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #111 |
170. Amen to that. A prudent cop would have let her walk away. |
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Sugar Smack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #96 |
228. She's a fourteen year old KID! What's wrong is that this adult cop's ego |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #228 |
297. So if she is hitting the cop, hitting the car |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #297 |
310. He should have uncuffed her and let her go. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #310 |
312. If she were calm |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #96 |
309. Some stranger GRABS me, on HALLOWEEN, and I, as a good, responsible citizen, |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #309 |
317. My bet |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. She was walking away when he stopped her. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Its not clear, but it also said she was continuing her tirade possible as she walked away. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #46 |
169. Maybe you'll understand what NCEvilDUer said: |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
75. Too bad that the cop didn't read the Constitution |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #75 |
127. See post 112 |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
131. I WHOLLY agree. We think what happened was nasty, but consider our past: |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. they only get their ass tasered. so much better. yup. and lets see how this board |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. No. What I am saying is, |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #131 |
171. Um, I actually grew up in the Fifties, and what you said |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #171 |
234. Well, I also grew up in the '50s |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
141. WHAT LAW DID SHE BREAK?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #141 |
143. See post 112 |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. Oh please |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:27 AM Response to Reply #147 |
156. How about just another fucking pig? |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
163. Kids in foster care have often been bounced around from home to home |
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R_M (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #163 |
201. I agree with you one hundred percent. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #201 |
203. this is what gets me with the few arrogant poster going after this girl for cussing |
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R_M (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #203 |
205. Not only did they demean the girl further, but they... |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #205 |
229. yep. I assume her friends stood around and watched the whole thing |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
27. Man tasered to death while looking for his mother! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. i went back looking for this thread, because not enough are bothered with this death |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
52. You're welcome seabeyond and fell free to add any other taser stories! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. child (6,7?)at school that cant be controlled by a bunch of adults, 26 yr old mothers in jammies |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
45. He needs a tazer to his balls... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
135. That's not fair! Two things would have to happen first: |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:06 AM Response to Reply #135 |
281. I think it is pretty well established that the cop didn't have any balls |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
64. Here's a book that gets to the root of the taser problem!!! |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
80. Is there a law against swearing in that area? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. per poster on this thread, cause she would want WANT the cop make her stop |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. The tasering crap is way out of control. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. and it is so obvious. written clearly for us to see. yet still there are those that support it |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Is being out of control a function of how often something appears in the media? |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #90 |
99. It's the way it's used. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #99 |
182. But how much do you really know about the manner in which it is used? |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
89. Okay, clearly the problem is |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. thank you |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #89 |
188. another example. the problem grows. the higher ups support this behavior |
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R_M (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #188 |
194. Everyone needs to learn to defend themselves. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
101. she tried to punch, nowhere stating she did punch him. he handcuffed her for the punch |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #101 |
145. Man you are frustrating to have a discussion with |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:16 AM Response to Reply #145 |
282. You do understand that the article was written by someone who |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:15 AM Response to Reply #282 |
284. that is all an obvious, and i would have told the poster, but man, |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #282 |
290. Which is why I have said, probably 10 times in this thread, |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
104. No names of the cops. Some accountability. NT |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
112. Her swearing was illegal |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #112 |
133. But it was 'free speech' |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:46 AM Response to Reply #112 |
155. Who gives a fuck?........ |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #112 |
191. So, how to define "fighting words" in Georgia...? |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #112 |
230. it isn't clear to me that she was in the presence of kids under 14 yrs old |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:21 AM Response to Reply #112 |
283. "...which threatens an immediate breach of the peace." |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #283 |
298. So I should be able to stand on a public street |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #298 |
300. we seem to have problems with our males throwing tantrums in school |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
137. How much you wanna bet the 14-year old girl is black? |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. Andrew Meyer was black? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Oh, bug off. He wasn't a little kid either. |
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R_M (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #137 |
196. Skin color is irrelevant. It's the act that matters. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #196 |
209. It's not irrelevent when black kids (& adults) are more likely to be suject to abusive police action |
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R_M (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #209 |
212. I agree that racial profilng is wrong. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-03-07 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
146. YAHOOO! |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:10 AM Response to Reply #146 |
157. Why are you cheering about a young child being tortured? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #157 |
232. Because she was a candy-seeker in the same way Andrew Meyer was an attention-seeker |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
152. I hope his buddies at the Police Station are giving him a hard time for |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
167. Lets clear the air here. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #167 |
173. Deleted message |
John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #173 |
238. I read enough OMC posts to know this is coming. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #238 |
249. Deleted message |
DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #167 |
174. No way. Professionals don't do those things to kids. |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #174 |
237. Depending on the definition in the ordenance. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #167 |
180. excessive use of force |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #180 |
239. Even if the assailant assaults an officer with a punch? |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #239 |
242. Nope, those are misdemeanor charges |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #242 |
244. She was out of control |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #244 |
255. Then your uncle has had piss poor training. |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #255 |
261. You be surprised |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #261 |
264. ergo, treat us all like criminals and animals. yes, i know |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #264 |
265. Now you are treating this like Rodney King |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #265 |
267. that is the mature argument i am looking for. so cause i have no desire |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #267 |
277. From what was written... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #277 |
278. two male cops with a handcuffed 14 yr old girl. you cannot convince me |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #261 |
266. Again, your uncle has had piss poor training |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #266 |
270. but he thinks it is justified. he thinks it is the right thing to do. how do you |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #270 |
280. Your uncle is wrong and is teaching you bad things, okay. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #167 |
189. Yep, you're gonna get flamed for this... |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #189 |
241. You failed to notice he was off duty when he arrested her. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #241 |
251. This has absolutely nothing to do with the taser event decision |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #251 |
271. Tasers are legal |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #271 |
273. Fair enough |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #167 |
216. She was ALREADY HANDCUFFED when the cop tasered her! |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #216 |
243. Wrong |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #243 |
245. two male cops with a handcuffed girl.... now i really am lmao at you |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #245 |
246. Where the hell did you get 2 from? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #246 |
248. here you go |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #243 |
254. No, YOU'RE wrong. Read the first sentence of the news article at the OP's link: |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #254 |
262. You can still escape even if you are cuffed. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #262 |
269. He could have just let her walk away, as she was doing. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #269 |
272. she can still escape from TWO GROWN MALES in handcuffs. how little the poster |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #272 |
276. I'm just fucking outraged at the kind of mindset that thinks ANY of this could POSSIBLY be justified |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #269 |
274. From what was said in the article |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #274 |
279. I repeat. He could have just let her walk away as she was already doing. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
172. "Since 2003, 3 people have died after stunned with Taser during a struggle with Gwinnett police |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #172 |
192. Milford Connecticut (New Haven County) had no... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #192 |
193. "any weapon can be "non-leathal"... my hubby is republican, support police |
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R_M (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #193 |
195. ..... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #195 |
197. he voted kerry in 2004. he has a sticker on his work folder |
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R_M (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #197 |
200. I made that post because you made it sound like he was still... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #200 |
202. this is a hard one for so many. but i am patient cause he has grown |
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R_M (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #202 |
204. I understand |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #204 |
206. lordy |
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R_M (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #206 |
207. Mama's Boy. I see your from Texas. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #207 |
208. actually i am from calif. hubby a texan. i got stuck here. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
181. I just e-mailed their Police Chief and this is the reply I JUST received! |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #181 |
190. He's just another parasite "sucking off of the tit of the state"! |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #181 |
221. I always say, it starts at the top. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #221 |
223. i agree. n/t |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #181 |
247. That was his reply? |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #247 |
257. Yep, a real leader of the police force, that one... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #181 |
253. Walters' reply makes sense to me given how little the public knows about the incident. n/t |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #253 |
258. Well, it doesn't to me, given that my e-mail wasn't aggressive |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #258 |
263. IMO you insulted the chief, "the first official police state. Sounds like you guys |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #263 |
275. Sounds like a regular question for a police force who makes it routine to use them |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
199. Got a comment for the police chief? |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #199 |
227. My comment to the pig in question: |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
268. If anyone tasered my 14 y.o. daughter, I'd... |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #268 |
285. I have 7 kids, ages 16-25 |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #285 |
286. Count me in. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #286 |
287. i would have everyone in town hoppin |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #287 |
288. sheeeit, i would be doing it if it wasnt my kids and was someone |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #268 |
289. What if your 14 yo daughter |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #289 |
294. You mean if a private security guard tried to grab her and she swung at him? |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #294 |
299. No, a real live cop "touched her arm" |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #299 |
302. He was off duty. Was he wearing his uniform? Did he identify himself to her before he grabbed her? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #302 |
304. the punch could have been just as easily her swinging her arm up |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #302 |
311. I'll stick to the story |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #311 |
319. You aren't sticking to the story. You are adding detail that isn't there. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #319 |
321. I am agreeing with you on the ID part |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #321 |
326. And if you're wrong, will you apologize to each person who called it correctly? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #326 |
329. difference of opinion................ yes. n/t |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #326 |
332. If he was on duty, in uniform, and ID'd himself as a cop, I hope none of my kids would throw a punch |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #319 |
325. but lets understand. a cop can interpret a swat as a punch just as easy |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #299 |
303. If it was in self-defense, like this, I'd say good for her. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #303 |
308. Assaulted her? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #308 |
313. You know I love you man, but your wrong in this. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #313 |
320. Ironically |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #320 |
327. you really think cops will allow and give her time to do all that stuff. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #308 |
316. Because it says so in the story. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #316 |
322. That's not what the story says. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #322 |
330. we know if the cop said "grab" his ass would be in trouble |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #289 |
318. I would doubt the veracity of the policeman's claim. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #318 |
324. I have no problem with that. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #324 |
328. The thing is, most of us think you should START with the assumption that |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
295. Our Police State is becoming more and more obvious. |
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