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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:36 AM Original message |
Scienctific stereotypes and pseudoscience |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you. I've been wanting to do this for some time. |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
83. Took the words right out of my mouth.... |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #83 |
133. If paranormal/supernatural phenomena were proven to exist... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #133 |
138. This is a good point. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. K&R |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. K&R. The "war on science" doesn't just come from the right-wing or christian fundys. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
4. Happy to K and R. nt |
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dropkickpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. K & R |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
6. k&r! |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Kicked and recommended. |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. k&r n/t |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
9. recommended.... |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. Science has its place |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. How is it limited? Limiting? |
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Blashyrkh (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. There's a difference between "science" and the "the scientific community". |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Finish this sentence, please... |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
68. ...like all of us they have a need for "certainty" |
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Blashyrkh (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
157. I use scientists like people use politicians. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. Weird, I find there's a fucking staggering amount to reach for, without fantasies such as ESP. n/t |
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Blashyrkh (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. Like what? A bigger house? God? Fuck God. We *ARE* gods. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. wtf? Easy there, Fight Club. Gods of what? One grain of sand? |
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Blashyrkh (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #160 |
166. No, no, no, you misunderstand. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. 'Because "science" says so?' |
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Blashyrkh (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. Interesting that members of the parapsychology community disagree with you. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Oh me, oh my n/t |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:15 AM Response to Reply #170 |
176. That's a shocker! |
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Blashyrkh (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #176 |
177. Do you consider all paranormal phernomena forgeries, or just psi? |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:53 AM Response to Reply #177 |
180. Did I use the word forgeries? |
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Blashyrkh (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #180 |
193. Not directly, but you can't expect to compared psi researchers to... |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #193 |
202. The point |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #170 |
204. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #170 |
205. Parapsychology |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #166 |
184. I believe that you are on to something |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #157 |
212. It already is meaningless |
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Zornhau (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I take it you're ready to go back to the dark ages then... |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
69. One need not idolize science in order to appreciate its accomplishments. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:33 AM Response to Reply #69 |
81. cite your source please |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:02 AM Response to Reply #69 |
86. Has anyone proved that there are "other truths"? |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #86 |
110. Well, there's Georg Cantor... |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #110 |
130. well said. better than I could have done. thanks |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 05:06 AM Response to Reply #110 |
174. Well, you proved my point. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #174 |
214. No, mathematics is not science. |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #110 |
213. Or... |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #86 |
111. i was referring to such "truths" as the inherent value of a life, |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 04:45 AM Response to Reply #111 |
173. Where did I ever state.... |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #69 |
132. cant right now ..going to work. will try later. |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #69 |
137. You are delusional about what scientists think... |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. "science has its place" sounds ALOT like |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. This is incorrect. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. BS. When people say such comments it because they don't want "subject X" to be... |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
119. That's just plain dumb |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #119 |
128. lol! nt |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Bit of a WALLOFTEXT, but great post, thanks :)! |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
13. About that 30-40% effectiveness... |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I should have said MOST drugs |
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windoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. use AND instead of OR |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Thank you for adding that into the discussion. I am with you |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. and I had a cousin who was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. It's like when those 1-5 people walk out of a burning building, where 100s died, |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Lol. If it were me, they would probably join the 100. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
67. So how am I under attack here?? |
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mr blur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. Well said! It's astonishing and infuriating that |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. The New Age Wacko = Progressive meme is a result of the New Age BS from the 60s and 70s. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. You want a pain in the ass? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
120. I think it's a problem with the boomer generation |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #120 |
152. I don't think it's necessarily the Boomers themselves, but the "Establishment is always wrong"... |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. That's a nice list of defenses for scientists.......... |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. That's bullshit |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. I tend to be skeptical myself |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Doctors have good reason for skepticism.. |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
64. Again, I see the resort to a straw man argument. I will not argue for a particular event |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
65. Aren't you just taking the slippery slope? Just because I would argue that |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #65 |
107. Can you please provide the scientific study... |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #107 |
127. I am going to work. I'll post studies when I get back this eve. Sorry for delay. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #127 |
189. kick for a reminder...nt |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
63. Thank You -- that sums it up nicely! |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. How about Dr. Gary Schwartz from University of Arizona? |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:24 AM Response to Reply #61 |
77. Plenty of not so bright PhD's |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:06 AM Response to Reply #61 |
87. Using an exception to confirm a norm? |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #87 |
134. THat was an uncalled for remark. I have TAUGHT logic. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. ah yes very convincing (not) |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
59. As one who has earned recognition from none other that the American Psychological |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:31 AM Response to Reply #59 |
80. Once again insults are SOOOOO credible.... |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:49 AM Response to Reply #59 |
84. I would be hard pressed to consider Psychology a science... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:06 AM Response to Reply #84 |
97. Psychology is certainly a science (or at any rate can be studied by the scientific method) |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #84 |
192. lots of pyschological studies seem to have good design |
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mr blur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Substiture "Woo" for "Creationist" here: |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. again....I trust science. I don't trust scientists who decide facts before allowing for observation. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Really. Please give me an example of this.. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:26 AM Response to Reply #56 |
78. He can't.... |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Look at most of the posts on this self-congratulatory thread. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:23 AM Response to Reply #66 |
76. No one is arguing this point that there are some unexplanable things |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #66 |
89. You miss the point |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #66 |
90. You did not form your syllogism properly |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #90 |
112. My syllogism was faulty. Absolutely. That's the point. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
100. IIRC a lot of UFOs seen in the late 80s turned out to be B2 Stealth Bombers back... |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #100 |
116. I don't care what UFO's are or are not., only that people have seen them and that |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
149. Well, how's this for faulty logic. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
58. Why do you assume |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. You like ESP as your straw man. I am not defending it per se. I AM, however arguing with some |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:20 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Most peer reviewed publications are at least single or double "blind" ... |
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nealmhughes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #71 |
186. Here, here (or is it hear, hear?). I teach and write on scholarly communication. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:29 AM Response to Reply #60 |
79. It isn't because |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #60 |
92. ESP is not a straw man |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #92 |
114. I am referring to that very fact. Every scientist on this thread is holding up |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #114 |
125. There are lots of scientists studying consciousness |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #125 |
129. That's correct. But read this thread. The contempt and the use of ESP |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
151. Right. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:12 AM Response to Reply #20 |
70. Just because *you* can't explain something doesn't meant that something is inexplicable.... |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
121. Writing off internet political forum "evidence" of ESP and UFOs is probably |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:19 PM Original message |
Kicked and recommended. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
22. "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.": Samuel Johnson |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Hey insults always are SOOOO convincing.... |
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mr blur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Well, that's the dumbest thing I've read all day. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I just have one thing to say to you.... |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
113. Were-woos of London |
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B3Nut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. ROFL!!!!! |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Why am I so reminded here... |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:09 AM Response to Reply #22 |
73. Why mention Samuel Johnson? |
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Twenty3 (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. K&R with a round of applause |
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lizerdbits (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
33. K&R |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
35. Says it all: |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:39 AM Response to Reply #35 |
94. Hey, those are pretty good! |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. K&R |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
40. K&R |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
43. Science is fine.. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. There certainly have been cases where people were have been laughed out of town. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Uh thats NOT how drug tests work,,, |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I was making a generalization.. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Wow. Since we don't know everything... |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. "Science is faulty, because it takes smarter scientists to prove how things really work." |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. Makes me think of the post WW II "futurologists" |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:31 AM Response to Reply #43 |
72. That is a red herring argument... |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
74. What's the alternative? |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
46. i agree |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:32 PM Original message |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. don't confuse skepticism with lack of curiosity... |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
95. sorry... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
144. Yes! I get so tired of that. |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
131. Interesting that you mentioned metaphysical states |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #131 |
139. precisely |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #139 |
142. I meant the *research* is happening on a physical plane |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
53. Mention WTC collapse |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-04-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. I can't touch WTC collapse debates |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:15 AM Response to Reply #62 |
88. Arguing in those types of debates |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:38 AM Response to Original message |
75. There are limits to science |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:41 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. okay so we bash the media for publishing anything and everything |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #82 |
148. You misread what I said |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:01 AM Response to Reply #75 |
85. Just because YOU are limited doesn't mean that Science is limited. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:57 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. I can think of one big scientific limit right off the top of my head |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:03 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. ah yes the "since we don't know everything" I must accept |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #93 |
109. Wow, why such hostility? |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #91 |
104. Everything is limited in breadth and scope |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #75 |
103. Conspiracist BS. |
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momto3 (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
96. Thanks for posting this, turtlensue. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #96 |
140. Thanks! |
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momto3 (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #140 |
168. You should be proud. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
98. Disagreement with your piece: |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #98 |
106. Science is not based on faith. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 05:41 AM Response to Reply #106 |
175. What? Because YOU say so? At least I supplied reasoning for it. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:46 AM Response to Reply #175 |
178. again, I ask |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #178 |
195. Like yourself, when you do not answer to numbered responses. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #195 |
209. Yes and thats |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #209 |
210. That, as I see it, would be wrong. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #175 |
197. Religion is dogmatic by definition. n/t. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #197 |
200. A wrong statement in good grammar this time. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #200 |
206. Of course it is, taking anything on blind faith is dogmatic. |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #206 |
207. I stand by my point 1 as supported by my point 2. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #207 |
208. If stating the facts is "absolutist thinking" to folks following Postmodernist, anti-science... |
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NoFederales (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
99. That SOAPBOX isn't nearly big enough; you should stay on it |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
101. Praise Bob! |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #101 |
117. or kill me! n/t |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
102. What I'm hearing is |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #102 |
126. I've always said I'd be more than willing to look into pseudoarchaeological claims |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
105. Scientists...meh... |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
108. Nicely done! |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
118. Calling oneself a "scientist" doesn't insulate one from human frailty. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Who said that it did? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #122 |
136. One poster claims, "[Science] can only allow us to learn about anything and everything |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #136 |
143. Science is a method of study, not a body of knowledge |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. You are seemingly disagreeing with the propositions I have quoted... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #145 |
154. I honestly think you misunderstood the propositions |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Nope. The statement was overreaching and ultimately unfalsiable... |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #155 |
196. I meant anything physical, that we can observe, that affects us in some physical way. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #118 |
153. No respectable scientist says he/she has all the answers. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. Read the quotes I gathered from this very thread! nt |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #156 |
172. Fortunately those are just the groupies |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 06:50 AM Response to Reply #172 |
179. .... |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #118 |
164. And yet somehow |
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chicagomd (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
123. K and R. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
124. k & r and well said!! |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
135. Great rant! |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
141. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours |
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Duncan (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
146. I think you made an error |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #146 |
150. Oh ineffective? |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
147. Water From HEAVEN~!!! |
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piesRsquare (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
161. Before I say anything, what's the sentiment around here |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. I knew you were going to post this |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. Somebody call |
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piesRsquare (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #162 |
167. Funny... |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. I have taken Psych 101, and animal behavior/ethology (which is related0 |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:02 AM Response to Reply #163 |
181. As a researcher in Experimental Psychology, I think there is often confusion about different types |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
182. I don't believe in scientists. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #182 |
185. wow shining ignorance there |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #182 |
187. Your bigotry is disgusting. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #182 |
188. Yes, and we're all impious selfish un-Christian sinners who don't accept the Bible |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #182 |
190. Well THAT was mind numbing. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #182 |
191. but you believe in the booogee woogeee woooggeee it's going to get you |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #182 |
194. I don't believe in scientist either, I believe in data and evidence |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #182 |
199. Which is why you said this using a computer that would not exist were it |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #182 |
203. "Scientists = sociopaths"; this really should go. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #182 |
211. I personally witnessed a scientist vivisect a busload of schoolchildren |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #182 |
215. Meaningless gibberish. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
183. ttt nt |
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NoodleBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
198. kick |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #198 |
201. Nope, you are not the only one. kick n/t |
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