Why are Republicans so against the facts surrounding Global Warming?

I have a Repub brother-in-law who swears global warming is a hoax. He is a fundie and his family loves Bush. Every election we go round and round and my sis, who is an independent voter, ends up voting the Democratic ticket, so she too, has an all out fight with him.

This morning they were fighting over global warming. He said it doesn't exist. :wtf: is wrong with these people and how can they say this after all the facts being presented to us.

He makes me furious:argh:

How can someone STILL be so stuck on STUPID after all this administration has done:banghead:

and the republicons HATE for industry to lose money, cause they lose donations blah blah blah

so global warming eats into corporate profits.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!

:nuke:

They think there is a conspiracy to take God out of the picture.

The whole GOP is scared shitless of "them" --- afraid that "they" might take something away from "us."

With Republicans, it's always 'us versus them,' and the situation is always so dire that it's okay to resort to waterboard and stealing elections so that the evil 'us' won't endanger the Loved-more-by-God 'them'.

Answer) Money

the Liberals are correct about Global Warming, what else are they right about?....the brain shuts off as a defense mechanism to protect the fragile Limbaugh infused world that hey live in.

Everything else is a waste of time with these flat earth Republicans.

1. Go to Rushlimbaugh.com sometime. Al Gore will be featured there in a comical fashion. They have been making sport of what they believe is nothing but gloom and doom for years, now. They have a great deal invested in the notion that liberals like Al are nothing more than cult leaders, and that we are all sheep for believing in them.

2. While the Bush Administration makes official noises acknowledging global warming (and I never fail to point this out), they have carefully calibrated their statements so it doesn't upset the true believers.

3. "Global Warming Skeptics" honestly believe that we liberals can't get people to emasculate themselves (emasculation, in this instance, means giving up big, stupid pickup trucks and SUVs) through honest means, so we need to make up a story. These are people who, generally (not always, but usually) lust after ever-bigger, more obnoxious vehicles. And it is not just a male castration-anxiety thing--conservo-fascist women have these same lusts.

So, those are three of the big 'uns. I'm sure others will have some more reasons for why your idiot BiL is an idiot.

somebody needs to slap the shit out of him.

I'll go to Limbaugh's site, though, on occasion to see what retarded RW memes are being manufactured that I either hadn't heard about, or whose spin I hadn't fully comprehended.

It's either that or tune in one of the RW blowhards during a drive back home, and I prefer not to do that.

He only watches Fox news, they always have on the skeptics over and over making it seem like a legit stance.
He says they are the only non-biased news, everyone else is liberal-biased (including PBS) so he won't watch them.
It's quite frustrating, I feel your pain. :hug:

and so they feel utterly helpless and lost in the face of such an impending crisis.

It also might mean the BIG Father in the sky ain't on the the job; and that is really scary. :scared: :scared: :scared:

No this won't due, it simply is not true: Denial is just the easy way out.

Even if you don't believe in global warming, do you think that spewing pollutants into our air & water is an admirable way to behave? Is it ethical for one group of people to be living large at the cost of the billions living in absolute poverty?

They don't usually respond, but it shuts them up.

You won't change their minds. They have to come around to it on their own.

resource to arm yourself with the facts:

How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic:

http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics

Or should I say Globally Warm link?

Thanks :hi:

is a desert or frozen over, assuming that they even survive? I don't get the greed of these people. :shrug:

I do not believe that man is the predominant cause. I think carbon credits are a load of crap. I think the Earth is heating up but I tend to lean toward the more respected theories of natural cyclical warming.

Are you a scientist and if you are, which I'm guessing your not, what do you base this assumption?

Where did you go?

any scientist not looking for a grant to study global warming will tell you that. Is the Earth heating up? Sure it is but until you can tell me exactly how much is due to volcanic activity versus human activity don't fucking tax me for it.

at the link I provided on post 11

Here I'll make it easy:

http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics


:hi:

...as evidenced by their avoidance of the reality of global warming, and their insistence that their candidates dismiss the theory of evolution.

It is truly scary to watch the so-called serious candidates on the Republican side espouse views that were current in the 1920s and before -- and to know that those views are a litmus test for their True Believers.

Hopefully the next election will crush them. But with the media environment we have right now, it seems unlikely.

a lot of them are nuts like Alex Jones who believe global warming is some liberal conspiracy.

Anything that impedes full blown economic activity and environmental destruction is evil in the conservative mind. By questioning the reality of environmental change, the merits of regulation are never discussed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1905355/posts






Quebec introduces carbon tax, Canada CEOs urge more (coming to America)
Reuters UK ^ | 10/2/07 | staff


Posted on 10/02/2007 7:25:48 AM PDT by teddyballgame


Quebec province slapped the country's first carbon tax on energy firms on Monday, as Canadian business leaders urged "environmental taxation" to rein in greenhouse-gas emissions.

The tax, proposed more than a year ago, is expected to raise C$200 million ($202 million) a year to fund the province's plans to reduce emissions.

It includes a per-litre levy of 0.8 Canadian cent for gasoline, 0.9 Canadian cent for diesel fuel, 0.96 Canadian cent for light heating oil, and C$8 a tonne for coal.

It wasn't immediately known whether the oil companies, including Petro-Canada (PCA.TO: Quote, Profile , Research) and Imperial Oil (IMO.TO: Quote, Profile , Research), would pass along the cost to consumers.


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Did you think all the Global Warming nonsense talk was just silly. Wait. This is where it is all going. Corporate taxes overseas, corporate taxes here, personal carbon taxes overseas, personal carbon taxes here. The Left wants you broke and dependent on them. A Hillary Presidency will ABSOLUTELY follow this course.

1 posted on 10/02/2007 7:26:05 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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So they are not taxing carbon emissions from our breath ‘yet’.

2 posted on 10/02/2007 7:29:25 AM PDT by kinoxi
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Why do big fuel companies want higher energy taxes? It allows them to feign a pose of responsibility, while locking in the status quo. Of COURSE they will pass the increase onto the consumer. The consumer, of course, should be willing to pony up the dough to save the planet.



3 posted on 10/02/2007 7:34:35 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, just wanted a new screen name.)
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It has nothing to do with climate change. The global warming hoax is all about raising your taxes.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus



4 posted on 10/02/2007 7:36:41 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Global warming has always been a ruse.

It’s simply a vehicle for big government to drive over liberty and an excuse for more taxes and regulations.



5 posted on 10/02/2007 7:38:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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Yep. Environmentalism is still socialism. Instead of socialism for the workers, its socialism for the planet. To save it, of course.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus



6 posted on 10/02/2007 7:40:14 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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“The global warming hoax is all about raising your taxes.”

Bingo. Raising your taxes - ie, taking your money “for the greater good”. BTW, “Climate Change” is only used in the winter when we’re all freezing our asses off. Technically we’re only in the Fall so please use “Global Warming”.



7 posted on 10/02/2007 7:45:58 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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Yes I agree. Global warming is two-fer for the dims: higher taxes to fuel more government spending and the takeover of the energy industry.

8 posted on 10/02/2007 7:50:37 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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It wasn't immediately known whether the oil companies, including Petro-Canada (PCA.TO: Quote, Profile , Research) and Imperial Oil (IMO.TO: Quote, Profile , Research), would pass along the cost to consumers.
Now if that isn't the stupidest remark I've read today..........


9 posted on 10/02/2007 7:55:38 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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Well considering all the gas produced by Quebecors eating poutaine.



10 posted on 10/02/2007 8:05:14 AM PDT by AU72
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” Kyoto represents the first component of an authentic global governance.”

Jacques Chirac at The Hauge 2000



11 posted on 10/02/2007 9:21:10 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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What hubris for these stupid people to think they are the cause of the natural fluctuations of climate; but they are liberals, and liberals in their own mind, are Gods unto themselves.
On a second note, so what is money supposed to do - will they burn it on some alter to the golden calf weather god; and when that does not work, will they revert as many socialists before them to blaming certain ethic groups and demand human sacrifices from them. It’s not hard to see where this is going - Apeman become God!

In the third Reich, it was the Jews and anyone else who got in the way; this time it is simpler, it’s just anyone who doesn’t think like they do - hell, why just go after the Jews when you can get everyone!

Finally, if anyone wants to find out what they are really up to, just follow the money trail and you will find out. (The short and sweet is that they are after you and domination of all the world)


12 posted on 10/02/2007 9:36:19 AM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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after our short break with an idiot...

And they believe that everything that comes out of his mouth is the word from on high. BushCo could tell the remaining backwash absolutely anything and they would believe it. Not only that, but they don't bother looking for causes to support other than those he tells them about. Proof: did your BIL care about global warming or even know what it was before his glorious leader got on TV and told him not to believe in it? I bet $1000 bucks the answer is no. He tells them what topics to care about and what to think about those topics, and the idiots do whatever he says.

Short Answer: They're Sheeple. It's not so much about stupid as it is about being a certain kind of follower personality. The kind of person who desperately needs to attach himself or herself to someone or something or an ideology they can worship, who needs to be told what to do, who feels desperately uncomfortable without some authority figure to listen to, and who gets really, really mad when they encounter others around them who actually want to think for themselves.

he definitely is a sheeple...about this and many other of the Bush talking points.

Be it faith in corporations or faith in gods. They place their faith in systems because they need to believe that something somewhere knows whats going on.

See the real world is full of uncertainty and doubt. These things cause a great deal of anxiety and trauma in people. For some people it is unbearable and thus they look to faith in things for security. Be it faith in a system such as the free market or faith in a benevolent god.

Science is the world of uncertainty and doubt. No scientist worth their salt will tell you that their theories are absolute and unquestionable. You are just going to have to live with the uncertainty. And some people are simply not willing to do that.

Thus cultures form within the society. Cultures built around various ways of approaching the world. Doubt based. Faith based. Freedom based. Government based. And each of these views take on their mix of faith and doubt. And they reject that which does not fit in their world view.

you can't be making that much sense around these people:sarcasm:

Their heads might explode.

Well said though:applause:

Genesis 1:26 -- "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."


And speaking of creeping things that creepeth upon the earth, Ann Coulter interprets that verse as follows: "God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01


So, by that logic, if gawd give humans a license to rape and pillage the planet, and if one of the results of those practices is global climate change, and if it's impossible to acknowledge that following gawd's orders can result in anything but good, then global climate change must be a natural event (i.e., approved by the deity) and must not be human-caused.


So when you combine the influence of the religiously insane, bottom-line corporatists, huge numbers of suet-headed ninnies who wallow in pseudo-science and ignore peer reviewed hard science, near-universal scorn for or non-coverage of climate change by US mass media, the political influence (i.e., campaign bribes) of the fossil fuels industry, a new era of happy talk about how global climate change is going to be GOOD for certain areas, the complete lack of political will to do much except commission more studies... That's a pretty formidable collection of forces arrayed against a sane approach to impending global ecocide.

Or, in modern bumper-sticker shorthand for mass consumption, "what, me worry."


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Those who believe they are living in the final days are not worried the least about global warming because they believe they are going to be raptured out of here any day now.

Is it just me or does the fact that there are people looking forward to the end of the world make you nervous?

I'm particularly nervous when I consider that a nihilist fundie wingnut, who has conversations with some maniac deity and self-identifies as a cultist who subscribes to End Times religiosity, has the nuclear launch codes.

But I'm probably just being overly alarmist. Who but a loon could read anything sinister into the above?


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Global warming shouldn't take it personally.

and it would benefit EVERYBODY - we can't have that

Same with abortion. Reality, substance, what's right and what's wrong, doesn't matter anymore. It's their team against ours, and they've perceived global warming to be a Liberal issue, therefore, they're against acknowledging or solving the problem.

or the FACTS about anything for that matter...

They are not part of the reality based community.

money in droves if this problem was being addressed more closely.

Through the end of the Cold War, they were annoyed that lefties were often Marxistly gloom-and-doomy about western civilization, capitalism, and our way of life, feeling that it would "collapse in upon itself from the weight of its own inherent contradictions." It turned out the other way though, and it was the Communist countries that collapsed from their own contradictions, so it was an ideological "win" for the neocons. Thus, once environmentalism began to make a resurgence in the 90s, the "thinking conservatives" were happy to dismiss it, as it basically makes the same argument about our way of life, but from an ecological, not economic or class-based outlook: the "Reds" were wrong, so the "Greens" would be too.

Unfortunately, it looks pretty clear now that, unlike the Reds, the Greens really do have a point. The great proletarian revolution will never come, but an environmental reckoning will. Sadly.