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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:52 PM Original message |
Michael Mukasey is Probably the Best We Could Hope for From Bush. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. Recommended |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Thank you, Richardo. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
68. The reason Miers was rejected was not "opposition from the left"... |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Almost correct. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. No almost about it, the right wing was against the nomination from day one. |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. Gitmo is the best you can hope from Bush. You don't give in to bullies. Period. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. exactly. We cannot sign off on this man or any other for AG who will not agree that |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Mukasey offered the "goal" of shutting down Guantanamo which both Cheney & Gonzales opposed. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
60. Of course he would say it is his "goal", It is BushCorps "goal" to end the war. nm |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Come on. Cheney and Gonzales both are on the record as wanting it open. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. My point is that it is easy to say it's your "goal". It's called rhetoric. And I wish to believe |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. I am profoundly disappointed in Mukasey. I want the Democrats to |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. What you say may be true |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. The best we can hope for is not good enough. We have to DEMAND that the AG |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Well said. nm |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
6. Have you completely given up hope that we'll at least get a reach around? |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. just shred a little of the Constitution, Chuck |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. Please, Don't feed me bitter ointment. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
9. even the best person can be wrong |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. So you prefer Sam Alito on the Supreme Court to Harriet Miers? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying, precisely that very exact thing |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Apology. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. accepted. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. Go read all of the top recommended post at Kos. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Don't need to. I read The Nation as a subscriber. They oppose Mukasey. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. No one should attack you. But, I am sick and tired of settling for the best we can expect. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. I hear you. And I know that my position won't be popular here. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
73. Those are intelligence folks saying not to vote for him. |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
11. No torture...Why should we have to have someone who will not |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Having read his transcripts, it's clear to me that he abhors water-boarding. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. No thanks. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. Don't agree. "pick our battles"?? I think we should fight BushCorp on every front. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Then move to Mississippi and work toward buiding the Democratic Party there. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I am working my hardest to rebuild the Democratic Party but it needs it |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Mississippi was an example of "picking your battles". |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
59. You lost me in Mississippi somewhere's, my point is it is too late to "pick battles", we must fight |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. as chuck schumer says, i respectfully disagree. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
19. Sink Mukasey when he comes to the floor for a vote. |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
24. Baring our neck for the slitting is about our best hope. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
25. We need to send the Emperior a strong message that we will not support |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
27. Ah yes and which battle is it we are picking to fight? |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. BTW |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
70. Wrong, the right-wing was opposing her from day one |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Why did the Repugs sabotage Ms. Meirs? |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. She had spoken and written favorably on gay rights, reproductive rights and more. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
29. Gotta be the driest powder in the history of mankind. n/t |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. When Bush nominates a semi-moderate to the AG, maybe we should keep our powder dry. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. A person unclear if torture is illegal is not a moderate. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I am certain that he finds it "illegal"; he's said it is "repugnant". |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
31. I am a bit stunned, I swear that I saw this same post above several days ago but the opt was a |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I'd like to see the post, AuntPatsy as I know I'm pretty much alone on this. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Honestly I am not being rude and I could probably find it but I don't like doing things like that |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. No. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. I did a search, it won't go back far enough, goes only to nov 1? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
33. No excuse, Schumer should have rejected the nomination |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
37. John Dean is now part of the left wing? And a crazy whacko commie? |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Funny, the OP predicted you'd say that. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Funny you should find out who these people are |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I still don't see 'whacko' in the OP - code word or not. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. That is why it is called CODE |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Get real. |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Bruce Fein? he was great on Bill Moyers re: impeachment a few months ago |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
42. bravo for saying it, David Zephyr |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
66. Thank you. Notice how a few twist my words to an argument I never made? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
51. One question |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Gonzales was confrimed by a Repuke-controlled Senate |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Comparing Gonzales to Mukasey is like comparing Hitler to Mussolini. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Of course not. I posted against him. His history in Texas was terrible. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
53. Different circumstances, we control the judiciary committee now and Bush is a lame duck |
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Krashkopf (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
55. Could the Democrats Grow JUST ONE Ball, Please. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
56. Fine, then shut down the government |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Right on. nm |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
65. So if you trust Chuck on this, you must not trust Leahy, Kennedy, Biden, Kohl, Feingold, |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
67. Mukasey refuses to say that an obvious crime is a crime... |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
69. You're trying to defend the indefensible. |
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Mike Nelson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-05-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
72. Good point, BUT... |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
76. K&R for the OP as well as the intelligent and (mostly) polite discourse. |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-06-07 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
78. If Chuck Schumer recommended Mukasey in the first place, |
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