So basically today was a total head spinner.

First, our brave Senators stand tall and vote to let through committee the dubious Mukasey who in his written response to the use of waterboarding writes "that he finds it personally repugnant but doesn't have a legal opinion on whether it is torture, and therefore illegal."

Mr. Mukasey if you have to ask if it is torture, the answer is 'yes it is'. You may not inflict pain, humiliation, or degradation on persons being detained by the state. You may not threaten them or their families or their friends and neighbors with pain humiliation or degradation. These are abhorrent practices of a fascist state. You are not qualified to be our Attorney General if you do not understand this.

To cut to the chase, our party leaders have not stood against the introduction of torture as a standard practice by this administration. That is simply shocking. If you are not shocked by that, you have lost your humanity.

Then we had the appalling spectacle of a motion to impeach Cheney, a man responsible for pushing the torture of detainees into standard practice by our government, among other high crimes and misdemeanors, the motion opposed again by our party leadership, and supported by Cheney's own party in a political maneuver that oddly enough made our leadership look even more foolish and inept than they already appeared to be.

Essentially the leadership of our party does not think that torture of detainees, warrantless spying on americans, treasonous betrayal of covert agents and secret networks, and a deliberately fraudulent and successful effort to take us into a disastrous war that is now bankrupting the country merits any concern on their part. They would rather continue the status quo, not rock the boat, and rake in the campaign contributions from the military, security, and prison industrial complex.

The corruption in Washington is now simply beyond belief.

It is beyond belief.

My brain is having a real hard time with the torture issue. This is so fundamental, it is an issue that defines the early days of the enlightenment, it goes right back to the founding of our Republic, the state cannot be permitted to detain without charges, to abuse detainees. This is so fundamental, and they just don't care. The video of that hideous Feinstein arrogantly walking past Code Pink was more than I could take. We don't have a political party. We don't have a democratic republic either.

She and her children are about ten bucks away from homelessness because nothing beyond hype was ever really done for them here.

There is a lot of dead wood to be cleaned up. I'd suggest starting with everyone who finds a justification for torture and moving next to everyone who believes poverty is a crime.

not that the pugs are angels, far from it, but about nation

And yes I am horrified... properly so

After all waterboarding starts with the undesirables, but it will move to standard practice soon. It always does, that is simply history

:grr:

I don't even know when I last started a thread to bash Pelosi.

Had I posted the stuff people are posting these days, my banishment from DU would have been finalized.

I'm swimming in my own shit.

I don't want it, but for some reason I developed the hunch that they generally fold in the face of bullies.

Disgusted? Yes!

Shocked? No, not really, alas.