Kucinich pulled off a real coup. Impeachment is now part of the dialogue. Synergy?

And the timing is very interesting, as torture and war crimes are also hitting the presses with the Mukasey nomination debate.

Are we about to witness a synergistic moment in American politics? Have the Dems been carefully building towards this moment, cleverly and judiciously moving the ball down the field a yard at a time as everyone was expecting that old-fashioned Hail Mary?

Good Morning Speaker Pelosi! Have you looked at the table lately? :rofl:

on the table..and, yes, thanks to Dennis K, Impeachment is even more a part of the National dialogue.

head with it....again and again and again.

to leave DC to campaign for Prez..he's impressing the hell outta lots of Americans all over the country right where he is!

corporatemediawhore process..Just Zoom Through 'Em!

They're under orders not to upset the apple cart for next year's selection.

But that doesn't mean DK and every American who supports the impeachment of the traitorous bastards in the WH shouldn't give Pelosi and the rest of those lily-livered bastards in the House a hard time of it from now till then.

:rofl:

GOOD MORNING AMERICA!

I haven't heard anything from the M$M about HR333.

The only people who are talking about it is us.

Republicans Try to Force Debate on Rep. Kucinich's Effort to ...
ABC News - 4 hours ago
... course midway through a vote, tried to force Democrats into a debate on the resolution sponsored by longshot presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich.
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=47318b72a13c6c77&ei=gEoxR-3cF5q8qgOGt_zoDQ&url=http%3A//www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory%3Fid%3D3828274&cid=1123057412

Small Snag in Kucinich's Impeachment Quest Washington Post
Kucinich Pushes for Cheney Impeachment Articles FOX News
Kucinich to Bring Up Cheney Impeachment FOX News
New York Times - Washington Post
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House GOP Embraces Cheney Impeachment Bid to Embarrass Democrats
By Edward Epstein and Alan K. Ota, CQ Staff - CQ TODAY - Nov. 6, 2007 – 5:40 p.m.
http://cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000002622573


For a few hours Tuesday, House Republicans sided with a liberal Democrat on a move to talk about impeaching Vice President Dick Cheney , vexing the majority leadership and bringing the planned agenda to a standstill.

It was classic procedural warfare as first Ohio Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich and then his conservative GOP foes used House rules to make political points.

Kucinich, a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, wanted to draw attention to his belief that Cheney deserves to be impeached.

Republicans, who normally can be counted on to resist such efforts, for a time kept Kucinich’s bid alive.

“Let Americans get a close look at Dennis Kucinich and that wing of the Democratic Party,” said John Culberson , R-Texas.

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Hoyer and Pelosi are adamantly opposed to impeachment. They are not Machiavellian enough to have concocted such a trap for the repubs. My question to the dem leadership is, are they smart enough to understand the gift that the repubs unwittingly handed them? The repubs could very easily have outsmarted themselves on the issue of impeachment. And now Nancy has the power to completely turn the tables. But will she?

"Hoyer and Pelosi are adamantly opposed to impeachment" may be overstated. They don't have the votes. They are not allowing a vote that might go the wrong way. If it would pass, they would change their stance, I think.

Hoyer couldn't wait to table the resolution. They have made it clear that they don't want it. The "we don't have the votes" excuse is just that, and is a pretty leaky one at that.

I don't mean gently put it on its side. i mean throw her fuckin' table against the wall.
so its best if she just steps back abit.

and then ZAP!, Gotcha!!

Oh those crafty Dems; just you wait!!

Sorry but I expect the Dems to fold on pretty much everything.

where it's not hardly being talked about.

And they were breaking the story. Nonetheless, the called it boring. And this one has yet to start a hearing. We shall see if this is an event in retrospect, like so much of history.

and the majority of candidates don't want it?

Is it only Dennis who wants to impeach Cheney? I haven't listened to all the debates - has this been asked?

But it's a foot in the doorjam that stops the door from slamming shut. Had Hoyer managed to table it then it would have just died, but there is validity in the process it must go through now. It's on the record now. Part and parcel of history. And we know how important history is to these guys, especially how history biews their legacy.

There's another point to be made. We've been going through the nightmare of finding out just how corrupt our government is. It would be a relief to finally find out if our representatives are going to represent us or not for real. If impeaching Cheney gets kicked under the rug we will be able to see a lot more clearly what now we only have strong suspicions about. Sometimes the pain of hope being dashed again and again is too wearing on the nerves. Sometimes it's good to just finally know the truth, no matter what it is. Do we or don't we now have a dictatorship government? Then and only then will we be able to figure out our next move. They love to keep us off balance, never knowing for sure that they are destroying the Constitution. They sure aren't going to suddenly hold a press conference to tell us the US is now officially a dictatorship. But the coming reaction to HR 333 will go a long way towards giving us a sledge hammer style 'hint'.

Cheney's Impeachment Literally Fell 'Off the Table'
By Paul Kane And Mary Ann Akers - Nov 8, 2007; Page A25
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/07/AR2007110702478.html?hpid=sec-politics

Maybe now we know what House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) meant when she said impeachment was "off the table."

Lawmakers' voting cards on the issue were literally just that -- off the table -- during Tuesday's brouhaha when Republicans briefly hijacked control of the chamber with a procedural maneuver and thrust the Democrats perilously close to debating a resolution on impeaching Vice President Cheney.

Offered by long-shot presidential candidate Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio), the unusual resolution would have resulted in the shortest impeachment debate ever -- one hour -- followed by a final vote on impeaching the unpopular vice president. Knowing how little Democratic leaders wanted to handle Kucinich's hot potato, Republicans began switching their votes late in the process, hoping to shame Pelosi and Co. into a debate that the GOP believed would expose the radical left in the chamber.

Republicans began siding with Kucinich against the tabling of his resolution, resulting in scores of GOP members lining up to switch their votes. ........