$4.00 a gallon for gasoline...Bushies waging war on Christmas...

Somebody tell Bill-O that the Bush KKKlan wants to destroy Christmas!

We screamed then sucked it up when gas hit $2.00 and when it hit $2.50 we screamed again than continued to fill our tanks and didn't change our habits.
Now we are at $3.00 and I don't really hear the screaming this time and it looks like the roads are just as busy as they were before.

It won't change until we change and say enough. Our driving habits have to change, combining trips and staying home on Friday night. Until we pinch them they will continue to gouge us.

I've quit going anywhere if it's not a have to case.

As long as people happily donate at the pumps the American oil barons will be just as happy to rob us as the Islamopecish terraists are.

I used to drive 20+ miles one-way for lunch regularly a few years ago.

I eat at home a lot now.

Don

is shop at Walmart. Their great low prices help make up for the high price of gas. And if you work there, the employee discount helps even more. Take that Chevron! :eyes:

The last time I was in a Wal-Mart, I stopped at one because it was a have to case. The local Wal-Mart had by then driven all the other local sporting goods stores in the area I was going fishing in out of business and it was either shop there or drive another 40 miles.

Anyway the guy who was working the sporting goods department that day stank so bad from BO, that I had to keep backing up to keep from losing my groceries right there in aisle 13. I mean this was not the old occasional whiff of BO it was like etched in stone type intensity! Like tear gas X 99! So do they not pay enough for the employees to afford a damned bar of soap or what? Needless to say I Quickly found what I needed and paid for it up front!(near the opening and closing doors and fresh air!)

of walfart.x(

when gas prices started skyrocketing. Maybe if Bush drops below 20%, the Dems in Congress will stop fearing him?

Don't even start hoping for that to happen until the little despicable king's approval ratings will drop below zero.

these thugs more money?

I remember the first time he turned the car off. It was 1978 and I was in Stadtsteinach, Germany, and my mentor and friend Gottfried Mueller was driving. We came to a red light, and he turned off his Audi while he waited for the light to change from red to green. It startled me: why was he doing this? Thinking it must be a personal idiosyncrasy of his, I didn’t say anything.

The next day I was walking around in downtown Kulmbach, Germany. People stopped at red lights and turned off their cars! Amazing! They were doing it, it turns out, because gasoline then cost about US$ 5 per gallon in Germany, and they wanted to conserve fuel.

Twenty-two years later, Louise and I bought our first new car in decades: a gasoline-electric hybrid called the Honda Insight. It gets – really and truly – over 70 miles to the gallon, with better pickup than the Alfa Romeo I had in my sports-car phase years earlier. And it turns off its own motor at red lights. Really!

I’m telling you this story about cars and red lights because in the past few weeks I’ve received about a dozen spam emails exhorting me to boycott Exxon/Mobil for a week or two so they’ll “come to their senses” and drop the price of gasoline. Yes, it’s true that this corporation just reported one of their largest earnings ever – $5 billion in 13 weeks, or $384 million a week, or $55 million a day in profits, or $2.3 million an hour in profits. This may seem a bit excessive to those who don’t own part of Exxon/Mobil, and will surely give them lots of goodies to pass out to their friends in Washington, DC, when they ask to drill in Alaska, but is that the issue? Is that the real problem?

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I will not buy gas from either Exxon or Mobil stations. I also will not use Mobil oil in my cars. Hasn't changed a thing though

to boycott a specific oil company, no matter how many people organize in that particular boycott effort.

They have been disgusting...some with their pants down too....

Them Pubs ain't got shit when it comes to campaigning so they go into smearing....dats how we ended up with Bush...negative campaigning, lying, cheatin. and stealin....

Some kinda VALUES these value Party dudes have...

The PUB Party has us given reason to believe....they want to rule us but havent the foggiest idea as to HOW

driven the price of lubric?nts up so high that we can't even afford to be comfortable and lubed, up as we're being porked to death!

We are getting dry shafted and Bush is still grinning from ear to ear!

and erect a huge unholy and unoily dildo with cheney's face on it's head, in Lady Liberty's place. So that any unaware world travelers will know not to come ashore in New York to be robbed, porked and plundered like we the people have been.

GOPofascists won't stop until they have stolen everything of ANY value in America!

opihimoimoi, violence equates to ignorance, plus these empty threats are worthless. I argued with my union member brother that voted bush in 2k and argued again in 04 but his vote canceled mine. He had his reasons and the fact is, judging by your ignorant rant about hunting them down and branding them, that you most likely could not debate someone like him on facts. It seems to me that those who act tough in private are wimps and if you tried to take a coat hanger to anyone under six years old you would get it shoved up your ass. Do you not know this country is in crisis because of torture ! and you advocate violence.

and while in college...they used to brand the RUSHES in their frat house....using hot coat hangers...so goes the story anyway./.

> And why should America TRUST a PUB in the future?

Because they'll kick gay peoples' asses. Because
they'll end abortion. Because they'll keep women
and other uppity minorities in their places.
Because they'll poke a fist in the eye of anyone
who disses 'Murka!

None of it's true, of course, but the Republican
power elite counts on the continuing media complicity
and electoral stupidity to keep these memes alive
and, so far, so good.

Tesha

It's really starting to get me down...I try to stay hopeful and I try not to think about what has happened to my country...but it's hard not to really totally despise anyone who would vote for more of this crap.

I heard this on the radio the other day and makes you go hmmm...

He called the doubling of oil prices a tax increase on the middle class that could amount to upwards of 25% of a family's income in the year ahead. He not just addressed the higher prices to fill up the car, but how this will ripple into food stores, home heating and other important needs.

As prices rise so do taxes. You pay a lot more to the government when your fill-up is $40 vs. $20...you pay put more in their coffers when you pay $6 for a gallon of milk vs. $2.50 and so on. Prices are creeping all across the board and with it come a windfall for the federal government in higher taxes that help fund bushie's war for profit.

Then he sighs and says that he suspects people will pay $5 a gallon and not bitch about it since they still want the freedom of their car.

And the republican rank and file voter is just like the frog in the proverbial pot of water on the cook stove that don't know the boiling point is rapidly approaching. The idiots want more of this SHIT! "Who would be better Rudy or Fred?"(that's like saying would you like puke or shit better?) IDIOTS!

FAKE MORALITY...$3454321234567876543.95 a gallon...

I heard a Repugnican investor buddy chuckle about how he loves the rise in oil prices. Yes, it costs more to fuel that big boat of his, but he's also making it back on his stocks and commodities. He said "it goes from one pocket, back into the other". These are the ones who will flock to Rudy or Mittens and their so-called "fiscal responsibility". He pointed out that the "alternative" to these high prices would be rationing...and people would rather pay more to keep driving their cars than put up with not getting gas.

why do you have buddies like that!

don't fall into Hanitty logic and complain about "tax gouging" Also, does anyone have a sales tax that applies to milk? Unless I'm totally missing your point, which is possible..

Again...this is from a Public Radio station (I avoid hate radio except for laughs)...and he was not just citing the pump price (where you are paying more overall in taxes to the government) but also in every other oil-affected business (that covers almost everyone)...rising prices is like a reverse bracket creep...pushing bills higher and with them the taxes. He was specific about the silent rise in home heating prices and all the tax money that's been generated. This is aggregate, not item specific.

It goes to the war machine. Now if that tax was used for helping with education, infrastructure, healthcare, etc, I would have no problem with it.

"why should we trust her to bring down the price of gas? She has NO experience in the oil industry." Oh yeah, and the people WITH experience did so much for us! The guy went on to say, "I heard natural gas and oil could double or triple under a Clinton administration." All I could do was stare in disbelief.

> "I heard natural gas and oil could double or triple
> under a Clinton administration."

Republicans have developed an art form where they tell
the absolute truth, but in such a way that the overall
effect is a carefully-crafted lie. This is an example
of that.

What this person said is true: natural gas and oil might
very well double or triple under a Clinton administration.
But what's also true is that it's at least as likely that
prices will double or triple under a Republican admini-
stration too.

It's the omission of that last part that makes this statement
"absolute truth telling a lie".

Tesha

They come to smear is true....

On one hand obviously this hurts everyone economically.

On the other hand will this motivate more people to buy higher MPG cars and change driving habits? We HAVE TO reduce CO2 emmissions and this is one way to get there.

The reasons gas is high though is total bullshit. Now if we were paying high gas prices from taxes that help pay univeral healthcare like they do in Europe, I would be fine with that.

...who often have out of necessity to drive older, hand-me-downs purchased used, will be stuck with the cast-off gas guzzlers for years.

My 74 Chevy Vega got 40 mpg but it died in 1981. My 88 Ford Escort died in 2001 and now I am driving used cars that get 12-23 mpg (and trying to keep them going) because now I simply cannot afford even the smallest and cheapest new car or new-er used car.

And please don't say 'public transportation' to me. I live on a farm, up a quarter-mile lane, and the nearest bus line (which provides only like one trip each way per day, to get anywhere) is about 4 miles.

When asked whether a $4/gal for gas indicated recession, they to a man answered No, and tried to spin it as not a signficant economic bellwether at all. Even the commentators -- Erin Burnett was one, I think -- didn't buy it.

I typically don't have CNBC on during the day, but I am fascinated at the rose-colored glasses approach almost everyone is taking. Thin line between optimism and denial, I guess.

to trash the economy just in time for Christmas. What's the deal?