Today's kids will be very used to being locked down by the government

Another school lockdown, this time in Pompano Beach, Florida as a cop-shooter is on the loose.

They already have no notion of "privacy." In their lifetimes, they've never actually experienced it. Their lockers and personal effects can be searched at will, they know that everything they put online is being scanned by the government, there are cameras on street corners.

Lately it seems not a week goes by that we hear of one or two schools being locked down, often for rather specious (or at least, nonsensical) reasons. I understand the desire to protect kids (healthcare would be a good start, but that's another topic), but why does every serious crime require a school being locked down? The school shootings experienced over the years have come from the inside, by kids already there. Are criminals prone to running to enclosed buildings like schools? Why not lock down offices, or hospitals or post offices?

Aren't we just conditioning our kids to accept iron-fisted rule by the government?

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it fosters fear and paranoia. I don't understand why teachers just couldn't be trained on how to deal with lock-downs. There is no good reason why kids need to be put through this, other than as you stay to keep them afraid of abstract enemies.

taught to memorize for tests, not to critical thinking. Throw in the crap on MTV and the instant gratification from technology and it looks pretty bleak...and I'm only 28.

posted this yesterday. Some interstig replies about how to disable the RFID Chips.

Now if the entire school would agree to microwave or exchange Chipped-shirts...well, that could be considered a really cool day at school.
Might suck when they were made to own up to the typical teen behavior. But haven't we all been through that "right-of-passage"?

Here's the link RFID Chips:
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2217643&mesg_id=2217643

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RFID Chips in School Uniforms Track Students (England)

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/devlin/17027
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How would feel about this: Tracking chips in kids' school clothing so that school officials can know their whereabouts during the school day?

Oh, it's happening. Ten students in a secondary school in the United Kingdom are being tracked through RFID implants in their school uniforms in a pilot program. Information Week reports that the kids attend Hungerhill School for ages 11-16 in Edenthorpe, England.

Add the RFID chips to increased video surveillance and fingerprinting of kids, and this is a heavily tracked generation—for safety's sake.

That extra peace of mind for adults comes with a heavy loss of privacy for kids. Do you agree with David Clouter, a parent and founder of the children's advocacy group Leave Them Kids Alone, who says taking all these precautions has the effect of treating kids like criminals? Or do you agree with the parents who have OKed the pilot program who do not find it egregiously intrusive?
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Don't forget the ubiquitous drug testing. Even with Pot 2.0 it is still necessary to put urine through a laboratory test in order to determine if a student has used any in the preceding 30 days. It is hard to imagine a more invasive procedure than requiring samples of bodily fluids from people. Next it will be DNA sampling and then what?

It's amazing we got out of the seventies alive if you believe the War on Drugs fanatics.

I'm currently involved in the planning of our 30th high school reunion. I just got off the phone with one of the other organizers down in Florida who related how he was upset that so few people had registered at the "official" hotel yet, even though the event is only a couple of weeks away. He was talking to the group sales rep at the hotel who just laughed at him..

"What year did your class graduate?" she asked him.

He told her, 1977, and that's when she chuckled..."Exactly. And what were you and your classmates doing in 1977?"

"Uh...hanging out on the beach, smokin' pot."

"Exactly. People never change. Don't worry...they'll all show up on the day of the reunion and book their rooms then. It's like this for every reunion from that era."

He told me that everyone he talks to says they'll be there, a very good turnout expected, but that only about 20 of us have actually registered yet.

You're so right, how the hell did we survive the seventies? Rampant sex and drugs, 18 yo drinking age. The sad part is, it is this very same generation -- the uncool kids who didn't get invited to the beer and make-out parties, I'd guess -- who are passing all these draconian laws and privacy invasions. To think, a few bong hits and some titties might have cured them from terminal authoritarianism!

It is a small town, but the shooting was across town from the school. I think our new chief of police is more radical than the last 2 have been, and I just haven't been paying attention.

We dutifully filed out back onto the football field, a head count was taken, we'd hang out in the sun for an hour, sneak a doobie under the bleachers, and then head back to class.

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and we never had one bomb threat or even anyone bringing a weapon to school, of course we, all us guys prolly had a frog sticker or two in our pockets but they weren't considered weapons back then. amazing the two different worlds we live in and their both USA, ;-)

In either case, the children and grandchildren of our current Evil Bushies will make sure to take advantage of it.

No question, the "tipping points" will come fast and furious once everyone 35 and over, that being the people who lived some portion of their adult life in old American freedom, grows old and dies.

I mean look, the same people who helped defeat Hitler are still alive, but very old, and their existence hasn't stopped the rise of the Bushies. Frogs in the slowly boiling water, and I'd make book that some of them are Loyal Bushies, even.

Exactly right Atman, The schools are now a gov't tool !

http://www.jdnews.com/news/school_48767___article.html/godette_havelock.html

http://www.redorbit.com/news/education/691092/lockdown_at_choctaw_high_detention_center_escapee_fled_into_school/index.html

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-7218460.html

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=a662b1da-6ccd-4292-bc75-8c5323392b94

Maybe lockdowns are overused, but who wants to be the person that makes the decision not to call for a lockdown and then something bad happens?

a couple of years ago, the idiot principal, instead of listening to the myriads of kids who specifically stated that they SAW a gun, opened the building up the next morning.

The 'shooter' had gotten the crap kicked out of him by some boys in the hallway and when the police arrived, they took him to the clinic to clean him up.

He stashed the gun under the scale, so when the police searched the building and the kid, there was no gun.

The nurse found it the next morning AFTER the ridiculously idiotic principal opened up the building rather than listening to the student population.

Can you imagine what would have happened if one of this kid's friends went after the gun to finish what he started? :scared: