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T.Ruth2power Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:50 AM
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Time to Tell the Truth About Global Warming
Time to Tell the Truth About Global Warming
by TocqueDeville
Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 11:31:51 PM PST

I have a confession to make. I've been lying about global warming for years. You see, I have known for over a decade that we were long past the "tipping point" for preventing catastrophic climate change. But I also believed, and still do, that it is a moral imperative to act as though we have a chance, just in case the data is wrong. And so when people asked if there was anything we could do to prevent global warming, I would lie.

Because of my involvement with certain environmental organizations, I was exposed to the science of climate change pretty early. We didn't call it global warming back then. We called it the greenhouse effect. But the truth is, all the way back in the late 70s and early 80s, the facts about global warming were very well established (a very important point I'll get to in my next diary). And way back then, scientists, like modern day prophets, were already predicting what we're witnessing right now - extreme weather events, melting at the poles, droughts, fires and floods. It's almost spooky now, to remember back when these predictions were only abstract notions of a seemingly uncertain future. But facts they were then, just as they are now.

Residence Time

Let me tell you a secret. Or at least it might as well be a secret because hardly anyone talks about it. It's called residence time. This is the measure of how long a gas stays in the atmosphere before being reabsorbed. And the residence time for CO2 has grave consequences for our planet and our future - which is why I suspect no one wants to talk about it. It wasn't in Al Gore's movie. But if you're one of the overwhelming majority of people who has never even heard of this term, let that be an indication of just how far we are from having even a remotely serious discussion about global warming.



What this means is, if humans stopped the engine of the entire world today, shut down every coal fired power plant from here to China, turned off every single automobile, stopped burning any carbon based substances from natural gas to firewood, and miraculously reduced global greenhouse emissions to exactly zero, we could not stop what is happening, and about to happen to our planet.

And because we have entered what I call runaway climate change, with numerous feedback loops kicking in, even if we stopped the engine of the world, not only will global warming continue, but it will continue to get worse.

Global Warming
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:02 PM
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1. yeah someone posted this earlier
I guess it's good news - I can go back to ignoring environmental issues because we are fucked either way.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:09 PM
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2. I believe it ,too.!! We have more to worry about than Bush and Co
Edited on Wed Nov-07-07 12:11 PM by Bobbieo
Thank you TRuth!
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:16 PM
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3. The sad thing is that people will not care until GW personally affects them
Then, it's too late.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 12:25 PM
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4. wow. I have read everything I could get my hands on about the climate for years, but I've never
heard this about the residence time for CO2.

I've already been expecting the worst to happen anyway. Very few people are really willing to change they way they live.
And then there are people like me who desperately want to find a bit of land, raise my own food and give up this crazy material-based existence. But I'm stuck here, because I have to work for someone else so I can eat. :(
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T.Ruth2power Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:41 PM
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5. More information
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:46 PM
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6. You might like this as well


The wide light & dark blue band is the range of IPCC forecasts for how quickly the Arctic basin will lose its sea ice cover.

The heavy red line is the concensus of all IPCC opinion.

The heavy black line shows the observed data from 1979 through 2007.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 02:12 PM
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7. George Monbiot wrote about this very thing some years back
http://www.monbiot.com/
I love his work.

Basically, he said the scientists he had interviewed
said precisely the same thing- that in essence,
even if every engine, factory etc were shut down that day,
the dominoes could not be stopped from falling at this point.
That we had long passed the point to stop inevitable
consequences.

BHN
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:01 PM
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8. I actually worry more about governmental modifications of our weather.
Edited on Wed Nov-07-07 03:04 PM by shance
For more information, google the Weather Modification Acts that have been passed by our own Congress.

There was a Texas Weather Modification Act of 1967.

Those in our government and even agricultural groups approved in various states have been modifying the weather since the 1950's, before that actually.

However, the technology has advanced to levels far beyond simple cloud seeding - which our government has kept from the American public, frankly because modifying weather is illegal.

However, it is occuring.

And with the onset of "disaster capitalism", you can probably bet it will be more of a profit bearing implementation for those who abuse power to use it.

What will be interesting will be using the excuse of "global warming" as a convenient excuse to feed the ignorant masses and keep us in constant suspension and fear.

Look up the HAARP program (a documentary called Angels don't play this HAARP) in Alaska potentially using nuclear devices/oceanic testing and it can create tsunamis.

I think that the term "global warming" is a thinly veiled lie really. Its vague, serves no purpose other than to create and promote fear.

The real truth is getting to the bottom of what is being done through technology and HOW IS IT being used by our military and various governmental programs and departments, and potentially against us as global citizens.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:17 AM
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9. Hey you...
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 01:18 AM by BeHereNow
:hi:

I'm back in town but going THROUGH it with my daughter.
Tacos soon?
I'll call you this weekend.
HAARP.
Nothing these evil bastards do would surprise me at this point.
I'm over being shocked and just plain MAD AS HELL.
BHN
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