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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:31 PM
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MUKASEY NOT A DONE DEAL!!! (More Sens Come Out Opposed-Fillibuster Possible!)
Edited on Wed Nov-07-07 03:32 PM by Beetwasher
Both of Montana's senators come out against Mukasey.

Late Update: Colorado's Salazar will also vote against.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/058200.php

Is Mukasey Really a Done Deal?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/058188.php
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:32 PM
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1. Baucus is going to challenge Bush?
:wow:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:48 PM
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13. Amazing what having to stand for election in 08 can accomplish.....I hope he filibusters
'cause if he won't, then it's just a safe old way to vote against while knowing that the nomination will pass.

Time for me to start making some calls.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:54 PM
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16. will he support a filibuster, though?
that is the question.

If he's your senator, please write/email/fax him to tell him to filibuster!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:33 PM
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2. Let's see... if Chuck & Diane & Mopey Joe & ms landrieau
all vote to confirm.. Who will we pull from the other side?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:40 PM
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5. We only need 41 to kill it with a filibuster. nt
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:39 PM
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3. We only need 40 against, I think
If we have 40, it won't achieve cloture.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:42 PM
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10. 41...
60 votes gets it to the floor.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:16 PM
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24. I stand corrected, guess I can't count
Thats why I work in an accounting department. :rofl:

And no, I'm not kidding.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:26 PM
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31. Hey, at least you're holding SOMEBODY "account"able
for SOMETHING. (More than I can say for the leadership at the moment.) :hi:
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:39 PM
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4. I doubt dems will filibuster anything in their lives. nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:41 PM
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8. Actually dems filibustered a lot under repukes
but I doubt they'll filibuster this, alas.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:44 PM
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11. I'm with you - they're too fokkin' busy keeping the powder dry.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:56 PM
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18. !
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:40 PM
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6. PLease let this happen.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:40 PM
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7. Holding on with hope above ALL hope..
When's this coming up again?
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:41 PM
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9. oh PLEASE. Dems will go down in flames as always.
Just ingore them.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:45 PM
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12. You know, we wouldn't be talking about this at all if the chair
of the Judiciary Committee had kept his word about not scheduling hearings until he had all the subpoenaed materials in hand. But, now that we caved on that one, it will be easier for them to cave on this one.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:00 PM
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21. *snicker*
you're so cute when you fix your beady little eyes on your arch nemesis, Senator Leahy.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:11 PM
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23. Truth hurts, doesn't it?
Leahy talks tough. Gotta say that for him. "I'll give you one week...one week...to get back to me on Maher Arar!" We're still waiting.

"We won't schedule hearings until we get everything we subpoenaed." NO subpoenaed material...none, nada, zero, zilch and HEARINGS ACCOMPLISHED!

"We will hold Miers and Rove in contempt." (Jeopardy theme song, here.)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:16 PM
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25. nah, I've moved beyond being irritated by your
phony attacks on Leahy, to genuinely being amused at your fixation.
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:49 PM
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14. Ken Salazar? My Senator Ken Salazar?!!
Will wonders never cease!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:52 PM
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15. will he support a filibuster, though?
that is the question.

Time to write/fax/email him and urge him to support one!
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:57 PM
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19. I have, but I'm not holding my breath . . .
Ken "Night Horse" Salazar votes GOP-Lite about 49% of the time, so I am shocked that he is taking a stand on Mukasey at all. I am not going to hold my breath waiting for him to act LIKE A REAL DEMOCRAT.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:55 PM
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17. Opposition to the nomination doesn't always equal opposition to cloture.
Have these senators indicated they will oppose the cloture motion?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:59 PM
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20. Well one can dream
but I ain't holding my breath

Now if they do it... I will be the first to applaud them
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:00 PM
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22. Who would most likely filibuster so far?
Kerry
Kennedy
Dodd
Feingold
Boxer

Would Obama & Clinton take that stance? If one of them took the lead, a lot more would fall in line, I would think.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:23 PM
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26. Imagine if they lose by two --> (Feingold & Shumer)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:45 PM
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28. I wouldn't be suprised if they reversed their vote (and it was FeinSTEIN)
I saw something on Olbermen where Feinstein's vote was a sympathy vote so Schumer wouldn't take all the heat for voting "YES".

However, I think Schumer's slate is clean. He got himself into a pickle by recommending this guy and then pretty much voting for him after stating that Murgasky would pass in the Judiciary.

Schumer has done his job. His slate is clean and he (along with Feinstein) can redeem themselves by voting "NO" now.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:31 PM
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27. I don't know if he will stick to it or not BUT
I got an email from Harry Reid who said...if Murkasey did not come out against waterboarding he would not vote for him.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:45 PM
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29. Ask him to filibuster, if one emerges. I bet some of the candidates would be
willing to try to convert popular dismay and disgust with torture into some votes. Leading a filibuter would do just that.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:49 PM
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30. I wouldn't be shocked of Schumer & Feinstein actually supported the Filibuster
Schumer stuck his foot in really really really deep with his initial support of the Mukasey back when Bush was making selections. On Olberman last night, there was that guy from Newsweek who said that Feinstein was essentially voting "YES" so all the heat wouldn't fall just on Schumer (if Schumer had voted "NO" I think she would have too).

Schumer's slate is clean now - he stuck with his word on Mukasey in Judiciary and he's free to do whatever he wants on the floor vote. I would NOT be suprised to see Schumer and Feinstein both support the filibuster
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