It's time to put up or shut up - Democratic Underground

Timmy5835

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Wed Nov-07-07 04:09 PM
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It's time to put up or shut up

The current crop of Democrats, especially in leadership have turned their backs on us. If we don't vote these people out and replace them with TRUE Democrats we DO deserve what we get.

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MrModerate

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Wed Nov-07-07 04:15 PM
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1. As disgusted as I am with the current dem leadership . . .

I don't think there's any way to find, prepare, and win with a new crop of Dems, fully equipped with spines, before the 2008 elections. The only soul-searching the 'Licans are going through is whether their guys luv jebus and waterboarding intensely enough.

I'm planning on dancing with the one what brung me, cuz the other guys are soooooo much worse.

On the other hand, continually shaming a little spirit into those dems already in the system is a must, as well.

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Timmy5835

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Wed Nov-07-07 04:48 PM
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4. Sadly, I fear......

Edited on Wed Nov-07-07 04:48 PM by Timmy5835

....with that kind of thinking, we are screwed (dictatorship). The current crop of Dems are showing NO spine and falling in line under Bush. We need to START the change and scare the power structure NOW.

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redqueen

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Wed Nov-07-07 04:26 PM
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2. What... you don't like that they backed off on raising taxes on hedge funds?

Was it the Fair Trade amendments House Dems joined Repukes to vote down?

What is it that you're most disappointed with?

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orleans

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Wed Nov-07-07 04:31 PM
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3. i think some duers should run

let's see...

skinner
sfexpat2000
H2O Man
lonestarnot
kpete

just to name a few

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nadinbrzezinski

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Wed Nov-07-07 04:50 PM
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6. I considerd it

then I went... where the fuck do I find 1.2 million? That is the average cost to run these days for a job that lasts two years, and pays what is 260K for the two years?

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cuke

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Wed Nov-07-07 04:52 PM
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8. You organize fundraisers

of course, the requires that you devote your entire waking life to campaigning, asking for money, all other things a politician has to do.

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cuke

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Wed Nov-07-07 04:50 PM
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5. Put up what? What are you "putting up"?

Oh wait! I just realized you are demanding that someone else "put up or shut up"

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cali

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Wed Nov-07-07 04:51 PM
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7. I'm happy with my Congressional reps

and I don't want to see any of them turned out of office. This purge mentality is not only unrealistic, it jettisons the good with the bad.

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Timmy5835

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Wed Nov-07-07 05:13 PM
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9. Exactly what good are you referring to?

The Dem leadership has caved to Bush time and time again. Are we any closer to ending the Iraq debacle?, we are about to confirm a man for Attorney General who has NO legal opinion on waterbording. So please enlighting me, what exactly have the Dems done that's so good?

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cali

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Wed Nov-07-07 05:19 PM
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10. you wrote a turn them all out OP. I responded that

I didn't want to turn my reps out. You did not specify turning out ust the leadership and/or selected reps. I was making a point about my own representatives. If you're interested in why I want to keep them, that's another story.

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