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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:41 PM Original message |
Paul Craig Roberts: Dollar's Fall Collapses the American Empire |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. right again Paul |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. By offshoring, the Empire chose to let itself go. Now ask WHY. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Oh, there is a very good reason, imho |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Are you thinking what I think you're thinking? |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. We don't know the facts ... we're not allowed to |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. There might be... but then, |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. A cake is a cake, so long as there isn't a lot of evidence it's a Mars bar :) |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. interesting concept. smaller units, cities can more easily convert from fossil |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Exactly. That's what needs to be done. Smaller, local units can have far more impact locally |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. gary hart spoke of this in a book of his |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. Because the age of nations is ending |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. The United States of America... |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. read American Theocracy for another take on this |
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Al Federfer (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Why would religion wane? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Religion is critical for empire |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. because religion was part of the mindset of the empire |
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Al Federfer (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Let's hope you're right. n/t |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Leo Strauss touted religion as societal control |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. Well, if that happens, that would be ONE good thing to come out of it. nt |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. That's for sure! |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. Seconded! This is an amazing book. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. Too many people forget that we are an empire of the Petrodollar |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. the Kevin Phillips book starts with a long section on oil politics |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. All things boil down to economics |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. and I can smell the break up of the country as well |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
48. I'm hoping it doesn't happen quite that fast |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. wow 1.6 billion on public relations, having karen (freddy krueger) hughes |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
10. Maybe we can raise money by selling Alaska back to Russia? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. And the South West back to Mexico. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
11. Time to dust off the old slogan: ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID!! |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
13. When Musharraf falls, thanks to Bush, the Islamists will have nukes. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. "the sky is falling! the sky is falling! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Also a good point. Change does NOT necessarily mean destruction. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
49. This kind of change will be rapid and unpredictable |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. I am worried for my two kids, now in college. Scary stuff. Change is on the way. nt |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
20. Can someone please get rid of this clown and his assistant now |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
21. For the first time, I disagree with PCR on something- that being this statement: |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. I agree about Pelosi and Reid knowing, |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Rest assured, their money is in globalist economic disaster proof accounts. |
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canadianbeaver (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. Makes one wonder if the corps are paying in Euros.......eom |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-07-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
27. K & R for PCR |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
30. what an excellent thread, from the OP all the way down. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
31. Kickin' for the night owls- |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
33. they are failing |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 01:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Scary thought is, perhaps they didn't fail. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 02:18 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Agreed. Always was his plan to raid the treasury. He's a globalist not an American |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. W E L C O M E to D U!!! |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Welcome to DU! |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Global Corporatist |
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iheartfreedom (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. Excellent points. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
37. "disrespect for human life" ... that's rich coming from Putin the Cannibal. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
39. They're bent on destroying the USA so they can create The North American Union with * in charge. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 03:29 AM Response to Original message |
40. We, and the world, will continue. The End is not at hand. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 05:22 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. You aren't paying attention then. nt |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Wow, and this revolution will be bloodless and controlled! |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. The record industry could collapse, but Music can never die! |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-08-07 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
43. Kick |
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