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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:38 PM
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McClatchy Commentary: Is waterboarding torture? Yes.
Commentary: Is waterboarding torture? Yes.
By Joseph L. Galloway | McClatchy Newspapers

* Posted on Wednesday, November 7, 2007


Did Bill Clinton have sex with that woman? Is Elvis Presley really dead? Is the Pope Catholic? Does a bear do his ablutions in the woods? Is waterboarding torture?

The answer to all of these questions, put simply, is yes.

All of Judge Michael Mukasey’s artful dodging and word play to avoid acknowledging the obvious to the august members of Senate Judiciary Committee does nothing to change the fact.

When you hog-tie a human being, tilt him head down, stuff a rag in his mouth and over his nostrils and pour water onto the rag slowly and steadily to the point where his lungs fill with water and he's suffocating and drowning, that is torture.

Four decades ago in the field in Vietnam, I saw a suspected Viet Cong waterboarded by South Vietnamese Army troops. The American Army advisers who were attached to the Vietnamese unit turned their backs and walked away before the torture began. It was then a Vietnamese affair and something they couldn't be associated with.

The victim was taken to the edge of death. His body was wracked with spasms as he fought for air. The soldier holding the five-gallon kerosene tin filled with muddy water from a nearby stream kept pouring it slowly onto the rag, and the victim desperately sucking for even a little air kept inhaling that water instead.

It seemed to go on forever. Did the suspect talk? I’m sure he did. I’m sure he told his torturers whatever he thought they wanted to hear, whether it was true or not. But I didn’t see the end of it because one of the American advisers came to me and told me I had to leave; that I couldn’t watch this interrogation, if that's what it was, any longer.

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:42 PM
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1. So much for Republican authenticity on "moral" issues
Waterboarding is torture. Decent people have acknowledged that for centuries. We sent Japanese war criminals to the gallows for using it. We sent a Texas sheriff to prison for using it. One day, an ex-president and those who helped him and those he ordered to torture fellow human beings may have to plea bargain for their lives and their freedom.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:46 PM
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2. the GOP hasn't had a scrap of moral authenticity in decades.
We're the ones in danger of losing ours.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:57 PM
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3. bush is going to get Mukasey, but do you think he is going to get ex-post-facto immunity?
Or is February 2009 going to be the day of reckoning for the men in his chain of command?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:01 PM
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4. why in blue hell would I believe
that a group that can't say "boo" to Bush now bring a "day of reckoning" to his chain of command once he's out of office?
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