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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:14 PM
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U.S. national debt hits US$9 trillion for the first time (and more news on the economy)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:15 PM
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1. But, but it is all peechy keen
:sarcasm:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:20 PM
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2. Yeah, 'puke fiscal, tax and environmental policies are perhaps as devastating on the nations'
economy, wealth, health and jobs' market as are the sophisticated weaponry used on others aboard. Ain't it wonnerful, all this destruction?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:21 AM
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14. But yes! Haven't we heard all about it lately, how the deficit has gone
way down - fueled mostly by all those wonderful magic tax cuts?

:eyes: :banghead:
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:20 PM
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3. Fine, take it all assholes b/c when its gone you can move to some other country,
rape their treasury and leave us the fuck alone.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:28 PM
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4. I actually thought that we had surpassed 9 trillion... But just googled and...
found out we were just above 9 trillion... Guess that really is bad enough considering it was somewhere around 5.6 trillion when Clinton left office.
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brazos121200 Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:33 PM
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5. This massive debt will NEVER be paid off. The best we
can hope for is that someday a future President will somehow devise a scheme to pay off a small percentage of the debt. More likely, after a future financial crisis, the debt will just be laid aside. Future generations will not want to sacrifice to pay off a debt left by their ancestors. This debt represents 8 trillion dollars run up by various Repub administrations and their fiscal folly, starting with Reagan in 1981, when the debt was less than 1 trillion dollars.
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Locrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:46 PM
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6. money IS debt
The whole economy is one giant pyramid scheme. We CANNOT end it w/o monetary reform. As it is - the ONLY outcome is for the rich few to own everything (meaning the rest become their slaves).


www.moneyasdebt.net

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/135.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:49 PM
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7. pie chart-who owns our debt


http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2007/08/an-800-billion-.html
The Skeptical Optimist: An $800 billion freebie, hidden in the national debt
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:57 PM
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8. "It took the country from George Washington until Ronald Reagan to reach
the first $1 trillion in debt." (from the first article). And I'll bet that at least half of that first Trillion was racked up under Reagan! Now where's that article stating that Bush jr. is the biggest spender in US presidential history?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:19 AM
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13. More foreign-owned debt has been amassed under shrub than under all previous
administrations combined, if I'm not mistaken. (Not sure if that's real dollars or adjusted for inflation, etc.)

Most Americans don't know that. It's all just a big scam with these people.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:17 PM
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9. Kick! n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:38 PM
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10. Look on the Bright Side...
... the $9 trillion debt is denominated in dollars. I'm just waiting for the White House spin machine to say they've cut the national debt by a third (and counting).

; )

- Dave
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:24 AM
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11. Debt? Who cares! The economy is great!
:sarcasm:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:45 AM
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12. We're spiraling toward another great depression.
And this time, it'll be far worse than what our parents and/or grandparents went through. And our government, in its infinite wisdom, will be like "move along, nothing to see here." :eyes:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 06:12 AM
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15. "Smirk, smirk, smirk" - Commander AWOL & Republicon Homelander profiteering cronies
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:06 AM
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16. Anybody (honest) keeping TRACK of this (our) $$$?
:rant: (an old rant really) We've been robbed, the coup was a heist for power and money, with practically no oversight that I am aware of. Is anyone tracing where these billions disappear to????? Aaaaaah! Ok, done for now.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:50 AM
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17. It didn't have to happen.
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 12:27 PM by Xap
The half of the U.S. that consists of utter fools voted to trade in the overall sound, responsible fiscal policies of Clinton/Gore for this shit. Unfortunately everybody ends up paying for their self-absorbed, delusional follies.


:grr: :grr: :grr:
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:29 PM
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18. We are so burnt toast.
I ponder the need for a gun...I can't believe it has come to this.

We need some kind of Divine Intervention....just one pretzel could do it.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:46 PM
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19. But Bush**'s man Bernanke was just on the tube
...telling a committee that all is well in Amerika: inflation is in check and he hasn't seen massive consumer debt, gas prices and the dollar decline affecting the broader domestic market yet.

If only we could ALL make a living being paid to lie through our teeth.
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