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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:48 PM
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What We Still Don't Know: "Are We Real?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38QK7pe_dOQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTX4nP992c0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W3d11E95MI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fplhEO2bSxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJf6suvXAgY

All life on Earth is nothing more than an elaborate facade created by super-intelligent beings. Humans now exist in a computerized version of the world -- a simulation that keeps us happy, while our powers are drained by our creators for use as fuel in their campaign for dominance in the 'real' world. This is the premise of the cult sci-fi thriller The Matrix.

'The simulation hypothesis, that we are currently living in a computer simulation, should be understood literally, it's not just in a metaphorical sense whereby one could view the universe as a simulation, but literally we would be living in a simulation created by some advanced civilization in a computer they built in their universe. And everything we see and our brains themselves would just be parts of this simulation.' Oxford University philosopher Dr Nick Bostrom echoes the thoughts of sci-fi writers and scientists alike. The simulation hypothesis is not sci-fi, it's serious academic thought.

In Are We Real? Martin Rees navigates the extraordinary territory between science fact and science fiction. He reveals the logical steps that have led cosmologists and philosophers to the shocking conclusion that The Matrix scenario cannot be safely relegated to our storybooks. Whether it's true or not, and it might be, here is a story that is altogether more serious and more deeply disturbing than any sci-fi fantasy could ever be.

Cosmologist Professor Max Tegmark from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology warns us that 'We humans have undergone a series of demotions, a series of blows to our ego.' Prepare yourself for another.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 09:57 PM
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1. I haven't had enough to drink yet
to get my brain around this concept. It sounds to me like Pinto's dooby induced speculation on the universe from Animal House.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:04 PM
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2. marking
to look at in the morning. Sounds intriguing.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:07 PM
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3. I'll post a clever response later..
The administrator is rebooting Earth.

If we are a computer program it sure does a great job of hiding its digital-ness. I see no evidence whatsoever.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:35 AM
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9. Religion is a malicious virus. nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:17 PM
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4. Sir Martin Rees: Prophet of doom?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/2000/newsmakers/2976279.stm

And, in a wider context, Sir Martin examines the extent to which individuals might trade their own privacy in order to allow the state to combat new, insidious, forms of global terrorism: a sort of democratised form of Big Brother.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:51 PM
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6.  Well thanks , now I'll sleep better tonight
I try not to think about this sort of thing to much . I have always related subliminal messages as a form of mass control and do believe they are in use and have been for many years .
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:57 PM
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7. I don't go to sleep to dream
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:23 PM
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5. Absentee deism
in other words, set a universe in motion and essentially abandon it. Is our consciousness their digital development? Or are we bugs in their system?

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:34 AM
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8. I am programmed; therefore, I am. nt
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:39 AM
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10. Somewhere in the Multiverse
A Grand Designer is looking at planet Earth 2007 and exclaiming "This wasn't supposed to happen on a Mac!"
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:51 AM
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11. We are all living in the Sims
And God is a 12 year old girl.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:54 AM
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12. Enjoyable so far, but obnoxious argument in number 2 4:00
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 02:38 AM by lvx35

The argument boils down to:

"I, life, find myself living in an evironment that supports life...That's no coincidence, there must be a creator!"

To disprove this theory, life would have to find itself living in an environment that doesn't support life...

But it gets good in number 4/5
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 11:38 PM
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13. kick
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