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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:35 AM
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Question: Would Cheney "out" Bush, during Impchmnt Hearings? And
if Cheney's testimony during those hearings perhaps, be enough damning info to bring Bush's impeachment directly on the heels of Cheneys?
If Cheney has to implicate Bush, could THAT then be legally used to set up impeachment for Bush?

Hope someone understands what I am asking. Brain seems on slo-mo tonite sorry. I've been thinking of cool and possible scenarios. Impeachment of BOTH of them needs to take place simultaneously, as in Kucinich's plan, so they cannot pardon each other when they are convicted of high crimes against the USA. (the way it SHOULD happen)

Can Cheney's testimony be used against george? Is that legal?
Can they weasel out of this, by again claiming 'exempt' due to executive privilege.

So many ideal scenarios & what-if's to ponder.
tks
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:46 AM
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1. Cheney will resign long before any hearings take place.
That's why I think we should go for it. Cheney will be gone quickly, and then on to Bush.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:53 AM
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4. I do agree w/that. He hauls his ambulance crew w/him everywhere,
I'm sure his"health" will be a sudden issue in this case.
However he gets out of the WH, I don't care. As long as he leaves.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:24 AM
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7. Hopefully the case won't end just because he resigns
and he would still have to testify, for a whole new set of impeachment hearings.(one can hope) Bush wouldn't pardon Cheney, with Cheney accepting a pardon would be an admission of guilt for a crime. He would still be obligated to testify...wouldnt he?
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:50 AM
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2. Tks for the recs...The biggest concern i have is
whether or not Cheney's testimony could also bring down Bush. I am hoping so..actually hauling Cheney's ass into a court hearing and expecting him to talk, may be a much bigger dream.

Maybe this dreaming falls under "thought crime". uh oh
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:52 AM
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3. Personally I believe Cheney will lie extensively & without conscience.If he is allowed to resign...
...he and his supporters will use that as a get out of jail free card and will drop further prosecution.

The only way through this is extensive hearings that build a case on evidence not given by Dick Cheney himself.

Hekate

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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:58 AM
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5. Is that how the mob had to be bought down? Same kind of
operation I guess. Bush/Cheney and the mofia.
That would be a far more interesting court hearing to watch than Clinton's stupid bj.
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:05 AM
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6. Good Question! I don't know...Hmmm...Can the puppet become the patsy?
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 01:09 AM by DianaForRussFeingold
Maybe... :shrug: Isn't that the reason they have The Witness Protection Program ?... :popcorn: :kick:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:00 AM
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8. You don't understand impeachment. It's not a criminal matter. It's not a matter of
if you turn states evidence we will cut you prison time.

What testimony?

Conviction only means removal from ofice, not a record, in a criminal sense.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:17 AM
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9. Impeachment doesn't
stop criminal charges being brought after his removal from office. IMO they should present evidence that serious crimes were committed that would also guarantee triggering a criminal investigation leading to indictment and trial. There are enough Attorneys in the House and Senate that it shouldn't be a big problem doing that.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:49 AM
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11. Tks This was more my question. I just cannot see Cheney answering
to anyone. No One snoops in his business. He's above surveillence & the law. Because of his coup on the US Govt. Cheny & his beloved Haliburton will live on, in some fashion, forever & ever. He has changed the world.
I did wonder, in the event of his answering to the JC, if what he says could be legally used to further our impeach, & convict agenda.
tks for the replies.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:19 PM
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12. Of course prosecution is possible once removed from office. But read the OP subject line.
that I was responding to.

The OP obviously doesn't understand the impeachment process.

Also, no crime needs be proven to impeach, by that I mean the House doesn't have to prove a violation of a legal statute to impeach.

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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:32 AM
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10. As long as Cheney isn't put on trial
until after George II leaves office, I say do whatever can be done just to piss him off.
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