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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:50 AM
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Al-Qaeda has been driven from "every neighborhood in Baghdad"

Militant Group Is Out of Baghdad, U.S. Says

By DAMIEN CAVE
Published: November 8, 2007

BAGHDAD, Nov. 7 — American forces have routed Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, the Iraqi militant network, from every neighborhood of Baghdad, a top American general said today, allowing American troops involved in the “surge” to depart as planned.

Go to Complete Coverage » Maj. Gen. Joseph F. Fil Jr., commander of United States forces in Baghdad, also said that American troops had yet to clear some 13 percent of the city, including Sadr City and several other areas controlled by Shiite militias. But, he said, “there’s just no question” that violence had declined since a spike in June.

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General Fil attributed the decline to improvements in the Iraqi security forces, a cease-fire ordered by the Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr, the disruption of financing for insurgents, and, most significant, Iraqis’ rejection of “the rule of the gun.”

His comments, in a broad interview over egg rolls and lo mein in a Green Zone conference room, were the latest in a series of upbeat assessments he and other commanders have offered in recent months. But his descriptions revealed a city still in transition: tormented by its past, struggling to find a better future.

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The question then becomes: Who is the U.S. killing and who is killing Iraqis?

BAGHDAD - Iraqi soldiers killed two gunmen and arrested 65 others during the last 24 hours across Iraq, the Defence Ministry said.

BAGHDAD - One U.S. soldier was killed by a roadside bomb during a patrol south of Baghdad on Wednesday, the U.S. military said.

BAGHDAD - A roadside bomb wounded three Iraqi soldiers on patrol in the New Baghdad district of eastern Baghdad, police said.

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* BAGHDAD - Iraqi soldiers killed 10 gunmen and arrested 59 others during the past 24 hours in different parts in Iraq, the Defence Ministry said.

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* BAGHDAD - U.S. soldiers killed three gunmen and arrested nine others during operations in central and northern Iraq, the U.S. military said.

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BAGHDAD - Four bodies were found shot in different areas of Baghdad on Tuesday, police said.

BAGHDAD - Gunmen killed a woman teacher in a drive-by shooting in the Mansour district of western Baghdad, police said.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:51 AM
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1. it's ALL propaganda now. reporters were smart enough to get out of there
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:54 AM
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2. well, -----to WHERE?-----we created lots of them-----they will show up someplace
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:57 AM
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3. Oh, goody! So the troops can come home now?
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 09:59 AM by rocknation
:bounce:
rocknation
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:32 AM
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10. no, they probably make Iraq the 52 state of the US.
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 10:32 AM by alyce douglas
ethic cleansing taking place.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:00 AM
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4. WOW, another
mission accomplished moment! Could Dick have been right? :sarcasm:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:14 AM
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5. I don't think AQ ever had that big of a presence in Baghdad, so
I can believe they're pretty much gone now. AQ was deliberately magnified and overblown into a huge factor (remember Petraeus claiming Iraq was now the "central front" against AQ), and now we look heroic by "defeating" this menace, so...good for us. What I would like to know is, what are the underlying factors in the drop in violence, and are they sustainable, or will they shift on a dime? How much is due to our presence, and how much is due to "negative" factors such as ethnic cleansing, the temporary stand-down of al-Sadr's militia, troublemakers going elsewhere for now? Where do we go from here? Nobody seems to know. My fear is that we'll stay until the violence ticks upward again, and then either Chimpy or Hillary will say, well, we can't leave NOW. It's a shame that the April bill didn't pass with the timeline--we could have had troops starting to come home now, getting out while the getting is good.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:15 AM
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6. I'll be damned. Is this guy back on the news?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:18 AM
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7. Well, there's some good news
Al Qaeda now apparently has the same presence in Baghdad as it did in . . . February 2003. And it only cost us half a trillion dollars and 4,000 dead Americans and a quarter million dead Iraqis. Well done, raises and presidential medals all around!

So Baghdad will become a destination resort city?
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:28 AM
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9. I like framing it
that way, probably a good way to say it to the Republics when they stupidly use al-Qaeda to brag about how well things are going in Iraq.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:28 AM
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8. Since there never was any al Qaeda in Iraq...
And 40% of republics still think Saddam did 911.

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:35 AM
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11. In other news: The mole has been completely whacked from the middle hole!
It's amazing what these people will trumpet as a "victory."

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