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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:32 PM
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Well, well, well - Spector Reveals The Truth About Mukassey
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 09:33 PM by kpete
Senate moves to confirm Mukasey as AG By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Senate moved to confirm Michael Mukasey as the nation's newest attorney general Thursday despite differences over his position on the legality of harsh interrogation of terrorism suspects.

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"He felt that he could not make that pronouncement without placing people at risk to be sued or perhaps even criminally prosecuted," said Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071109/ap_on_go_co/senate_mukasey;_ylt=AiW0iTe7JUJrjgRIaFsnq0Os0NUE
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:35 PM
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1. because if he'd called it torture, he'd then be duty-bound to prosecute bush/cheney/rums
and the rest of the gang


beautiful
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:36 AM
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20. He's *still* duty-bound to prosecute, no matter what words he did or didn't say.
Not that that will happen....
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:35 PM
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2. WTF? They broke the law thus they must be prosecuted...
So Mukassey basically ran interference for criminals?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:40 PM
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8. Yes. Mukasey is going to keep Busholini & any of Fascist
Regime from being prosecuted for anything. That is why he was appointed & why Schumer
recommended him. The Plutocracy must be protected.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:36 PM
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3. So that makes him
Attorney General material?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:38 PM
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4. And I bet Spector said it with straight face....unbelievable...
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:38 PM
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5. I posted elsewhere "He's a company man." 
Schumer is going to be greatly disappointed.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:41 PM
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9. Or...
he told Schumer in private he would prosecute, but if he said in public so THEN the GOP would torpedo his nomination themselves. Someone is going to be sorry in the morning. The odds?
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:44 PM
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11. slim to 0. n/t 
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 08:21 AM
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21. It would be a first
The Dems never planned for the Spouter turnaround. Given the general naivete of Schumer in too many matters the unlikelihood eliminates slim as the proper upper probability.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:39 PM
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6. RIP Rule of Law....
Passed away after a long lingering illness...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:39 PM
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7. So, instead he chooses to be an accessory after-the-fact in a war crime?
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 09:39 PM by TahitiNut
Kewl! That's true Cheney/Bush material.

We're getting the government we deserve, folks. May our children spit on our graves. :puke:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:42 PM
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10. "harsh interrogation of terrorism suspects"
Instead of
"WASHINGTON - The Senate moved to confirm Michael Mukasey as the nation's newest attorney general Thursday despite differences over his position on the legality of harsh interrogation of terrorism suspects."
it should be
"WASHINGTON - The Senate moved to confirm Michael Mukasey as the nation's newest attorney general Thursday despite differences over his position on the legality of waterboarding."
or
"WASHINGTON - The Senate moved to confirm Michael Mukasey as the nation's newest attorney general Thursday despite differences over his definition of torture."
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:46 PM
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12. That is a beautiful find
Of course, most of the country wouldn't get it. But we get it. He can't answer because the answer implicates the criminals are in the White House. WHAT a country heh?


GOD forbid the guilty would be criminally prosecuted. CAN'T have that! Stop Kucinich at all costs-go Blue dog dems! PS why are there all these damn colors of Dems? I've never heard of the pink or the yellow Republicans-no they are all just Republicans. Imagine if all the Democrats were actually Democrats. Instead of colors. Or flavors.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:48 PM
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13. Sen. Kennedy said this just now on the Senate floor.
I don't have a transcript, but in paraphrasing, he said that it had been confirmed that we had waterboarded detainees. He cited 4 laws that state that cruel and unusual punishment is illegal. Thus, the reason Mucousy can't say that waterboarding is torture is because we have done it, and Bush and Cheney have authorized it. And his duty like Gonzo before him is to the pretzeldente and not to the rule of law.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:19 PM
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14. Write and ask him why someone who waterboarded someone else SHOULDN'T
be "sued or perhaps even criminally prosecuted,"

(I did!)

http://specter.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:27 PM
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15. Spector has always been a thug apologist, when he wasn't being a wolf in sheep's clothing.
He's just a two faced politician, playing both sides of the road. He should be in jail for supporting lies, theft, torture and murder.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:19 AM
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18. He's a weak hearted bull shit artist. It's not like we need any more proof of that either.
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lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:15 AM
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16. IMHO, Mukasey added his name to the list of people who
will be "sued or perhaps criminally prosecuted" by acting as an accessory after the fact and thus impeding justice. I hope he, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and all of them live a long time so their crimes have a chance to catch up with them.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:18 AM
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17. Imagine that, , people could actually be prosecuted for torture? k + r
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:26 AM
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19. I wonder why Schumer & Feinstein, Bayh and the others who voted (and those
who failed to cast votes) would be willing to go to bat for this man against the excellent arguments made by their Dem colleagues.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 08:31 AM
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22. I thought that was obvious
it was also obvious that Bush wasn't going to send up a nominee that would say otherwise.

Mukassey also said that if Congress passed a law specifically outlawing waterboarding then the Justice Dept would be obliged to enforce it and that the President would not be above that law.

Given the situation that the President gets to nominate the AG, and considering that the sitting AG is a Bush administration crony, confirming Mukassey seemed to be making the best of a bad situation. Everything else is just political posturing - on both sides of the aisle.

The real test of Congress will be passing anti-torture legislation.
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