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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:30 AM Original message |
Women helping women escape the porn industry |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. kick |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
2. Isn't she one of the "converted" Bible beaters? Kind of like "faith based initiative? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. maybe you are thinking of jc`s girls |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. There are plenty of fake churches and scams out there |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
53. Maybe you're correct. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. She is a christian, if that's what you mean |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. yum, slippery melted butter.... |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
20. that's hawt |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
59. Icy... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. You know COMCAST . . . makes $500 MILLION a year from porn --- !!!! |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Yep, Its sickening - nt |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
130. OH MY GAWD THAT'S HORRIBLE!!!! |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #130 |
156. Yeah, I mean, it's not like anyone on DU takes issue with worker exploitation, slavery, employment |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. Thisis a big subject -- internet expansion -- crossover into child porn --- |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Joe Camel is illegal. Abusing young girls? No problem. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Actually, porn involving non-adults is patently illegal. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
73. Try looking at the post you were responding to. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I'll pass. But thanks for the offer |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #76 |
94. One thing about the internet is, you can find just about anything on it. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #94 |
114. Ah yes, consenting adults. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Right. "Consenting adults" rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:37 AM Response to Reply #114 |
214. And . . . let's not link the huge growth in pornography here to what's happening with female sexual |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:53 AM Response to Reply #214 |
230. Nope. Can't argue with a rock-solid thesis like that. .... !!! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
85. Yet there are many adult porn "actors" who look "non-adult" |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. And that's creepy, I'll grant you that. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #85 |
215. That was also a big gimmick with tobacco --- Ever seen one of those huge billboards . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:20 AM Response to Reply #42 |
116. From what I understand it's happening that adult porn is very often crossing |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 05:46 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. If you've got actual evidence of people dealing in such a thing, call the FBI. They're breaking |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 06:28 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Get a grip is right. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #117 |
149. People who have studied what's happening on the internet say this is happening --- |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. How is it about me? It's not. If anything, it's about you, and the fact that you haven't backed up a |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #153 |
221. YOU have made the discussion personally about YOU . . . |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:49 AM Response to Reply #221 |
229. You "don't see that..." well, maybe that's because you can't comprehend what other people write. |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
321. which takes us to human trafficking. We should have a good discussion on human trafficking |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
6. Brace yourself. The apologists will be along shortly. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
32. How many of those "progressives" are men? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:57 PM Original message |
And men too... don't forget about gay porn. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
124. Probably at least half! Burn 'em! n/t |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
171. You would be wrong, and take progressive out of quotes |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
41. Porn thread? Wouldn't miss it. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
68. Actually, impeachdubya, a lotta people in the religious right are big porn users |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
95. You know what? When you guys start a thread saying "We approve of sexual expression by and for |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #95 |
123. Why don't YOU get off YOUR ass and work on improving porn ? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #123 |
144. I'm just asking a legitimate question. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. You obviously know fuck all about Dworkin |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #145 |
151. Oh, yes, let's talk about what Dworkin actually said. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #151 |
162. A few phrases, lazily pulled out of context |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #162 |
176. Right. To many, she was "refreshingly honest". Just like Ann Coulter is, to some. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #176 |
180. The problem with (most) porn is that it depicts objectification and degradation |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #180 |
216. Again --- just want to say this is a hugely important thread and I think DU |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #176 |
206. Oh, and to address your question: |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #206 |
211. I'm just wondering where the differentiation between films of non-degrading heterosexual sex |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #211 |
213. What is YOUR criteria? I can't tell from your post. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:29 AM Response to Reply #213 |
225. Sho nuff. I guess actual answers and discussion are just too strenuous. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #211 |
231. so, you have no problem your daughter being a stripper, prostitute or porn star? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #206 |
220. Had no idea that . . . |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #123 |
232. You are not seriously trying to assert |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #232 |
237. Ooooh....let me guess.....You're a 'Pro Sex Feminist'! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #237 |
239. I never said anything about |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #239 |
241. what uber feminist has told us we are not suppose to like sex? |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #241 |
244. Never did I say that: |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #244 |
246. again, making an argument when not said. no one said ALL |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #246 |
248. Actually, if you read the posts on this |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #248 |
250. people are in the porn industry that don't want to be......get out! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #250 |
251. Never did I use the word "easy" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #251 |
254. Is it easy? Nope............... then where is the issue here. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #254 |
257. SO WHAT THE HELL ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT???? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #244 |
260. You're the one making the generalizations here |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #260 |
261. i am still looking for ONE uber feminist (whatever the hell that is) who says i am not suppose |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #261 |
263. The only one I know of is made out of straw |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #263 |
264. otherwise the boys won't like us anymore. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #260 |
262. self deleted |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #260 |
265. YOU are the one who said this: |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #265 |
270. Nice try. That comment about 'dudes' was sarcasm directed at one particular dude |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #270 |
272. I don't even know what |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #239 |
259. Your uber-feminist is made of straw. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #259 |
266. It's funny because |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #266 |
326. You are really something. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #237 |
245. You say 'Pro Sex Feminist' like it's a very bad thing. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #245 |
252. It's kinda like "pro-life". It's defining anyone who disagrees with you by default |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #252 |
274. What's the difference between porn and any other industry? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #274 |
283. How does that question relate to my post? Answer: It doesn't. nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #283 |
290. Oh, I really think it does. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #290 |
300. Deleted message |
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #300 |
301. No, I think the problem that you have with the sex industry... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #301 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #302 |
319. That's one of the two best lines I've seen so far at DU --- !!! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #319 |
338. And Hitler was a vegetarian. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #338 |
349. And a pervert . . . What's your point? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
351. ... and here's to women having increased power and options over how they choose to make a living |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
86. Yep... they turn a blind eye to the fact that there are serious... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
125. We're also about self-determination and civil liberties. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. Only if you are equate criticism with censorship. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. Really? That's how you see it? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. The porn industry and many of its defenders remind me of that business owner in you post. nt |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
157. Exactly - DU will get strung out on worker's rights and then as soon as the work is porn |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
169. Not being blanket anti=porn does not make one an "apologist" |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #169 |
181. Calling attention to issues in the porn industry does not make one anti-porn. Jeebus. nt |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #181 |
185. I don't believe I stated that at all, did I? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. I watched |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 02:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
33. Then she was in it for the wrong reasons, |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Absolutely |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
78. Yes she was |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
173. Good post |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
90. A sister of a high school friend had the same experience... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
179. To support her habit? People do ALL sorts of things to support her habit |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
9. "We are a group of women who are rooted in God..." |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. What kind of person are you? |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:09 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Huffleclaw - The kind of person you ask, |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Where's the "fundamentalism" in her statement? |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
27. You're mixing fundamentalists with Christians |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
74. Because only fundies... |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. K & R - and see the following link: |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Absolutely |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:12 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I am sick to death of deleting the slutty message that slide in my e-mails |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:21 AM Original message |
"disgusting women" |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
75. Catching hell for condemning abuse and entrapment... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
18. We don't need the government |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Do you say that about miners? Auto workers???-nt |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. If a woman decides to fuck on camera |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Agreed. Regulate a lot better, don't ban.nt |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
25. woman helps woman in the porn industry |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. What does Jenna Jameson say about Suze Randall? |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. It's her daughter Holly |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:15 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. I definitely get it |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
29. If she really wanted to help the women, she would help them form a union. |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 02:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Right again... |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Wait. She is a social worker who started doing this in her free time |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Maybe there are ex-fundy porn stars who would like to help fundies escape religion. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 06:21 AM Response to Reply #36 |
118. Won't deny that is true. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
57. WTF? They don't need unions - they need OPTIONS |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. well spoken. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. As one of my favorite radfem bloggers says: no woman has agency in the Patriarchy |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 06:39 AM Response to Reply #57 |
120. While what you assume is in part true, it ignores the fact that there |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
127. I find this unhelpful |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
138. Requiem for a Dream |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #138 |
350. "Freedom of screechers?" -- Oh brother |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #57 |
158. Thanks -- |
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Mad_Dem_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #57 |
235. ... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
297. And there we have it. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
60. Exactly. nt |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
71. Self delete |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
258. Tell the Godfather you want a union. Go ahead, I dare you. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
273. Just like Major League Baseball... |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
30. I take offense to the notion that I need to 'escape ' my chosen career. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:10 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I am not a fundie |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
106. Why do you say "girls" here? Is this aimed at saving underage girls |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #106 |
242. Similar to the tactic of calling Monica Lewinsky a young "girl" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #242 |
247. ya... and she acted like a girl. being used by an old man. n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #247 |
255. Hmmm... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:28 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I understand your point of view. |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. ...and I've seen that also. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
133. Yep. I've never understood how/why so many, particularly women, feel that dancing |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #133 |
210. I'd rather make less money and keep my self-respect |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. As if we give a shit what they think or say |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
131. Exactly why a union is required. The dancers are the only reason anybody goes |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
39. AMEN SISTER! |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. .... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #44 |
61. I saw that and couldn't believe how ridiculous it was. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:12 AM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Good for you! |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #50 |
63. I personally see nothing wrong with gold diggers. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. She wasn't so honest with the guys |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:27 AM Response to Reply #30 |
51. Good post... |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
77. THANK YOU!!! |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Look behind the curtain, then decide. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Ah, Jenna Jameson. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I was relying on her experiences |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
105. But... lildreamer... maybe you just haven't found JAYSUS yet! |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
139. Sex Trade Workers Industrial Union 690 |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
174. I'm so glad you posted this |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
184. You don't want to be "saved" but why do you begrudge other women that opportunity? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #184 |
299. I've heard you can be saved from the gay too. nt. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #299 |
324. Explain to me how stripping is an innate sexual orientation |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 07:37 AM Response to Reply #324 |
327. I've heard you can be rescued from the satanist clutch of feminism as well. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #327 |
328. Feminism is an innate orientation too? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #328 |
339. No. But that would be the wrong argument in this case. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #339 |
340. The free-market libertarians haven't necessarily coopted you |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #339 |
341. i always enjoy a man telling me i must accept porn, now to be a true feminist |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #341 |
343. You don't have to accept porn, I never said you did. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #343 |
345. i wasnt reading a morality crusade with the op. i didnt get that it was |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
45. "Where is our government???" |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Commander AWOL Bush has assigned Sen. David Vitter (R) to get to the bottom of this |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:13 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Ha! |
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coffee_strong (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. some womens |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
52. Not For Sale |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Thanks-nt |
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SyntaxError (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
56. Is this just an issue in the US, or is it in other countries too? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I honestly don't know. |
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SyntaxError (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Kind of funny though, aye? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Certainly |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
209. You know, honestly, your position would be a lot stronger if you stopped saying "girls" |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
65. Now they can all gut chickens at Crider for seven bucks an hour. PRAISE! |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
66. Here's one for everyone to watch |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
72. I imagine the porn industry is one of the last venues... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
80. Sounds like one of those cures for homosexuality things. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Except that it's heterosexuality. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Let's be clear. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. More like counseling and therapy. She is a professional counselor, ya know.-nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Yes, and Jesus is her mentor. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Oh yeah, that's definitely a sign of evil-nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. No. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Let me get this straight |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. So are the "Christian soldiers" |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #99 |
107. What about homes for victims of spousal abuse? Are they evil too? |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. 1. I don't see those as |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. They are identical |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #113 |
121. Uh no. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #121 |
201. if a woman does not like porn, thinks it is degrading to females she MUST |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #201 |
236. Reading comprehension is your friend. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #236 |
238. many women |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #238 |
249. I did not once |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #249 |
253. anyone should feel "degraded" by porn, it should be men |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #253 |
320. We do need to look more at the men who think they have a relationship with a video --- |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #97 |
112. Pretty much. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #112 |
135. and I really don't think your reading comprehension is all that great. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #135 |
269. My reading comprehension isn't all that great? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #89 |
141. Secular alternatives to her program are desperately needed. nt |
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Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #141 |
182. Sex Industry Survivors is a secular program helping women who want to leave the sex industry |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
83. Jesusism + Feminism = Harmony Star Dust |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
96. nobody forced them to enter the industry |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. You're not on board with the infantilization. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. You are where I was recently |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Arguing for tighter regulations is different than arguing that women are victims. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #102 |
111. Absolutely |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. oh ive heard storys |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #103 |
240. A shady industry that many of them entered at a very young age and under extreme manipulation |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #96 |
218. If it was a "decision" --- we'd see more men making that decision --- |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #218 |
256. Have you somehow remained unaware of the huge market for gay porn? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #256 |
314. Are you saying gay porn is violent and exploitative --- ??? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #314 |
329. You said IF it was a decision we'd see more men making it. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #329 |
348. You're making an unlikely presumption . . . |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
101. So here's a question: Do they "help" strippers who may be Jewish or Atheists? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. I can't imagine why not |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #109 |
122. Please get back to us if you receive a response. nt |
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Tektonik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #101 |
161. I wonder if they help lesbians |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
104. Oh please... |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-09-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. If this stuff went on in fast food, you'd be screaming for new laws-nt |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #108 |
143. Absolutely. These people constantly compare other occupations to sex work |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #143 |
159. Right? I won't get flamed to hell for working against the exploitation of WalMart employees - if I |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #108 |
175. It does |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #104 |
315. You think that pornography is "sex" . . . ??? |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
126. Here's What They Should Do: Have One of Them Distract the Guards. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. But what of the mind control rays? The robot overlords? n/t |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #126 |
137. and can I add: if necessary or convenient... |
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Tektonik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
136. her being fundie=not reading whatever garbage is on that site |
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usaftmo (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
140. Men also need help escaping from the porn industry. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
142. For those concerned about the religious aspects of Harmony's program: |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #142 |
146. So you'd be okay with the exact same proseltyzing done to, say, Planned Parenthood employees? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. You answered your own question. The prosletyzers would be acting within their rights. nt |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. You said it much better than I did-nt |
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Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #142 |
183. Exactly! Thank you for your eloquence. :-) nt |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #183 |
200. You're very welcome. Thank you as well, for all your helpful links. |
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Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 03:43 AM Response to Reply #200 |
228. Sad beyond words indeed. :-( |
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Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
150. Hey sampsonblk and thecatburglar! :-) Great work you are doing here. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #150 |
154. Thank you for this post |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #150 |
160. That's one hell of a first post -- |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #150 |
164. also bookmarking |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #150 |
168. Thank you! Great first post!-nt |
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Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #168 |
186. You're very welcome sampsonblk, lwfern, Katherine, and musette. Glad to help out. :-) |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #150 |
178. Oh brother |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-10-07 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
152. Deleted message |
Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
155. Thanks for posting - and to the DU Libertarian brigade: do you support worker exploitation in other |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #155 |
163. Who in this thread |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. There is strong support for pornography as a first amendment protected |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #165 |
167. Many reasons. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. My OP was about exploitation & abuse of women in the porn/exotic dance industry |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:54 AM Response to Reply #165 |
219. I think we have to awaken DU to a more just expression which is less exploitive of females ---- |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #163 |
177. Deleted sub-thread |
lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #155 |
166. It's one thing to say that we oppose the exploitation of construction workers |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #166 |
172. I am for ending the abuses and the abusive situations... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #172 |
187. Rampant STDs and drug use? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. I don't need to prove to you that there are drugs and STDs |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. There's drugs and STDs in EVERY job -- you made the assumption, so YOU provide the facts |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #190 |
196. I am wondering as to what other jobs, other than porn and prostitution, |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #196 |
202. This stuff happens at every job, of course. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #190 |
199. You told on yourself |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #199 |
204. Deleted message |
Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
189. Freedom of Choice and Harmfulness (in porn and the sex industries) |
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Moses2SandyKoufax (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #189 |
191. You do realize, |
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Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Yes. What does that have to do with my post about choice in regards to pornography? |
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Moses2SandyKoufax (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. I'll repeat, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. who the f* cares. and what does that have to do with anything, |
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Moses2SandyKoufax (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. It means quit spamming the board. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #195 |
197. i have my pet issues. gonna tell me not to post. this person has as much RIGHT to post, as you |
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Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #195 |
198. Spam would be off topic. I am posting about porn on a porn thread. Please feel free to do the same. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #195 |
203. Its on-topic - nt |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #195 |
205. So goodbye environmentalists, GLBT activists, feminists, animal rights folks, etc. then. |
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Moses2SandyKoufax (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #205 |
207. Read her profile. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #207 |
208. I've read profiles of DUers who only mention an interest in their favorite sports team |
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Moses2SandyKoufax (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #208 |
212. You have a point. There has been no thread jacking. However, |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:27 AM Response to Reply #207 |
224. Then its time for a hearty welcome! |
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Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #224 |
268. Thank you. :-) I appreciate your kindness. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
217. Hillary would be a natural choice to pull the reigns in on the porn industry. However, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:11 AM Response to Reply #217 |
222. Look at the growing sexual enslavement of women all over the world!!! |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:25 AM Response to Reply #222 |
223. Hill will do more about this than anyone else in the presidential race. She'll be |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:31 AM Response to Reply #223 |
226. I'd be thrilled to have a female in WH for those very reasons . . . thrilled!!! |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #226 |
243. My worry is that she would team up with fundamentalists on this issue |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #243 |
312. With the rise of the right, we see renewed efforts to debase and oppress females --- |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #312 |
352. They'd rather compare US to fundies |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #217 |
233. Not as long as the Dems are in the thrall of the industry |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #233 |
234. and even with that. what tipper was asking, for a mere rating on music |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:51 AM Response to Original message |
227. As long as there is no cigarette smoke on the set. n/t |
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Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
267. Bill Margold of PAWS (Protecting Adult Welfare) speaks out about the abuses of the porn industry |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #267 |
277. every pro porn person should read. "defiling and dehumanizing people " |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #277 |
316. Is this a magazine article, or book --- or what? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #316 |
317. i am sorry. it isnt clear. i was refering to the post i attached to. that should be read |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
271. So some Jesus-bot helps to shame women out of paying work into wage slavery? |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #271 |
275. Apparently, |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #275 |
276. I did returns at TRU one holiday season. |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #276 |
280. Oy. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #276 |
285. Okay, you know what you just did, right? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #271 |
279. You missed the point. I think thread has gotten too long. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #279 |
282. How much is she helping? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #282 |
288. Good grief! Who the FUCK are YOU accusing of infantilization? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #288 |
289. that is how i felt about the post. like you arent willing to "make" these women |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #289 |
291. wtf are you talking about? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #289 |
293. Well of course, need to have a Masters Degree and a white collar profession |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #293 |
294. Holy shit! |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #294 |
296. And other people in the industry are telling YOU different. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #296 |
298. That's the quote of the Day |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #294 |
303. you IGNORE #267. why? cause he will faint w/ word sex. no no, cause he is a prude |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #303 |
304. I think maybe you are confused. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #304 |
309. did you read post #267? n/t |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #309 |
311. Yes I read it. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #311 |
313. you are sad.... it cannot all simply be blamed on the fundamentalist |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #313 |
318. Did I blame it all |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #318 |
323. you always bring it right back to those damn religious people "saving" |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #311 |
325. But characterizing people who point out the (many) bad parts of the industry |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #288 |
305. Fuck off. I am a struggling working class mom, not somebody looking down their nose like you. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 07:41 AM Response to Reply #305 |
353. I ain't crazy about my job either. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #279 |
284. What sickens me the most about this thread |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #284 |
286. "Sexual underclass" |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #286 |
292. The comments are all over this thread. Look for them. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #284 |
287. Yep, very unfortunate-nt |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #284 |
306. I'm all in favor of real options. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #271 |
295. And I guess if they decided to add stripping to the job description of whatever you do |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #295 |
308. You're assuming that if you don't want that work, nobody does. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #308 |
322. Why don't you? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #322 |
330. I'm not curvy, I can't dance, and my hearing issues make loud music torturous? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #330 |
331. but... no ONE stated not for ANYbody, right? n/t |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #331 |
332. It's certainly implied in this argument about how horrible and degrading and blah blah it is. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #332 |
333. no, i dont think it was implied. you may interpret it as such. but that is |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #330 |
334. Then you should be smart enough to realize |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #334 |
335. "help" seems like a stretch. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #335 |
336. ......and apparently you're not. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #335 |
337. why we need to vote dem. n/t |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
278. A great post. Also a very moving article. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #278 |
281. Thanks!-nt |
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Anti-Porn Activist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
307. Very revealing study on sexual abuse and exploitation in the strip club industry |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #307 |
310. it is all that RESPECT these men have for these women. yup |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #307 |
342. Wow, a sample size of eighteen. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
344. You do realize it is not just a problem for women? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 06:44 AM Response to Reply #344 |
346. Explain yourself please-nt |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-14-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #344 |
347. Please expand. |
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