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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:35 PM
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Newsweek: Condi Rice admits the U.S. should have understood Iraq better

http://www.newsweek.com/id/69092

Condoleezza Rice is, by her own admission, not "that self-reflective." But in an interview in her office on Thursday the secretary of state took a moment to contemplate the improved security situation in Iraq. Asked whether she and the Bush administration had made any mistakes early on "that you're perhaps trying to redeem yourself for," she responded with her trademark steely smile. "I'm sure there are lots of things we might have done better," she said. "I'll give you one with Iraq. If I had to do it all over again, we would have had the balance between center, local and provincial better. But that's the kind of thing you learn over time."

Rice has admitted on occasion that the U.S. government made "tactical" mistakes in Iraq, but rarely has she gone into specifics. Reminded that Mideast scholars had long advised that controlling Iraq would require winning over local, provincial and tribal authorities, Rice said, "I would like to go back and find out who gave that … Arab states can be very centralized. This is actually a fairly new model of local and provincial responsibility. I don't think it was self-evident that this was the case." Rice said that the U.S. occupation began to grapple with this reality in earnest in 2005, when the State Department began pushing to send so-called provincial reconstruction teams outside of Baghdad. She said the creation of a democratic central government and "the transition to administrative law, I think, is going to be judged very well" over time. But, she added, "I think we didn't identify a lot of the kind of provincial and local leaders that might have been able to deliver services as well as politics on a more localized level early on."

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Both Diamond and another Iraq scholar, Judith Yaphe of the National Defense University (NDU), say that just about every expert in the region, going back to the British occupation after World War I, has known how crucial it was to build relations with the provinces and tribal leaders in Iraq. Prewar reports by both the Future of Iraq Project, run out of the State Department, and NDU had emphasized this at a time when Rice was national security adviser, Yaphe says. "If you look at Saddam's rule, he knew very well how important local and tribal leaders were," says Yaphe. She also says that Rice's idea that this was a "fairly new model" is wrong. "It seems to me anybody in that area understands that full well. That's how that system has operated there for a long time."
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:39 PM
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1. Do you think?
For being a PHD, she sure is stupid
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:39 PM
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2. Yeah, yeah, hindsight is 20/20.
This isn't like wishing you'd bought the blue sweater instead of the red, Condi--this is a country we're talking about here. You and Dumbass went in and fucked with the situation in Iraq without doing ANY research, and just saying "Oops!" is not going to clear you of blame.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:39 PM
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3. Read the floor speeches from many Senators before the IWR. Hell, read what
Cheney and Poppy Bush were saying about invading Iraq and overthrowing Saddam in the 90's--everyone knew what would happen in Iraq. She can't possibly believe her own bullshit--but she's going to try playing the incompetence card anyway.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:40 PM
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4. NO, you Transylvanian tramp, because you're "not self-reflective"
you never learn from your mistakes. Idiot. Spouting ignorant babble and thinks she's fooling people.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:46 PM
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5. Rice makes the dumbest remarks of any politician. nt
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:46 PM
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6. A lot of "the U.S." **did** understand Iraq better...
...or were at least able to make more realistic assessments of the chances of success and/or the sort of resources and talent that would have to be marshalled in order to have even a fair chance at success (at least, of the stated goals).

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:57 PM
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7. That's OK Condi. It's not like you did anything that hurt people.
Nobody's perfect. We all make mistakes. Look at the bright side.

There's still Iran to bomb and a lot more people to kill.



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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:00 PM
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8. "But I have an excuse. I was busy buying designer shoes." - Condi
"You can't expect us republicon homelanders to manage everything. Really."

- Condi

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