Bernie Ward said Edwards shoulda been the Dem's candidate in '04

Said he was silenced by the Kerry folks.

http://www.kgoam810.com/listenlive.asp

I am really getting sick of this shit. Hillary and Edwards were pro-war in 2004. They're the ones that made it difficult for Kerry to take a complete anti-war stance. Now they both want to dance this new dance and blame every previous problem on Kerry. It's complete nonsense.

You won't find Edwards 'blaming every previous problem on Kerry.' If you have a link to evidence supporting this allegation then provide it.

It is not true. Edwards has remained silent about decisions made by Kerry.

I am tired of people claiming otherwise with nothing to back it up.

Supposedly Edwards wanted to fight the recount. Elizabeth was offended by Teresa's snobbiness. The campaign didn't want to use Edwards. Edwards refusal to call the WMD claims lies. On and on. There have been a variety of dropped 'hints' that Edwards wanted to fight, or some such nonsense, AFTER he stuck his finger in the wind as well.

Many instances of Edwards making claims about the Kerry campaign, but now you'll deny it, just like everybody around here does when confronted with facts they don't want to face.

all you have done is make allegations. I asked you to provide evidence to support your allegation, and you just gave us more allegations. Where is your evidence?

THe truth is you cannot give any evidence that Edwards ever said such a thing publicly, because he never did.

Admit it. You have nothing.

Are you denying that?

Saying something is a 'fact' does not make it so.

I called your bluff -- so put up or shut up. Link to evidence that Edwards said those things. You called it a fact. Should be easy to find evidence if it is a fact.

you wouldn't need links. I'm not wasting my time to prove something to people who don't pay attention to what's going on in the world.

Maybe you should not 'waste your time' making false allegations.

You ran into someone who knows the truth this time, and you got called out for it.

Your credibility just took a big nosedive.

I am not worried at all about my credibility. Those are statements of fact and anybody who has been paying attention knows it.

Edwards had many from this area working in his 2004 campaign, and the decisions made once Edwards was brought on board as VP were made almost exclusively by Kerry and his campaign political strategists --not the Edwards people.

The Edwards political strategists made an earnest plea that money be spent in North Carolina because Edwards could win here. THat appeal fell on deaf ears and no money at all was spent in NC as the Kerry people wrote NC off.

When the votes were still being tallied in Ohio Edwards pleaded with Kerry to fight for every vote to be counted and not to concede until all the votes were counted --but again Edwards was rebuffed.

I was at Edwards last campaign event in Raleigh when he conceded to Kerry. He was very gracious and upbeat, and a class act.

It sure would have been interesting to see Edwards go up against Bush and Cheney. Opposition research by Repubs had very little with which to attack Edwards, and Edwards would have fought back and took them to task.

Oh well, we have the chance to correct that mistake this election cycle by electing Edwards as the Party Nominee.

He didn't "get it" yet, in 2004.

Now he gets it, though.

I also know that Kerry didn't have his heart in the campaign, and should have never ran if he didn't defend himself

It was pathetic when he was swift-boated, and for weeks he stood and took it without really fighting back

It started when drudge reported that Kerry had an affair with someone who was part of his campaign. He ignored that charge, until finally the woman who he was accused of having the affair with came out and said there was no basis to it.

That was the first time in his campaign that I knew there was trouble. He should have come out immediately, and said there was no basis to it, but instead waited for the woman to do it

When the Swift Boating came against his war record it was even more pathetic. During the convention he brings up his war record, and then when it is attacked, he refuses to defend the baseless charges until it is way too late

just the plain truth. Dude would have WON.

I repeat that this is not the fault of the Clintons. There are a lot of very nasty folks that managed to tie themselves to the Clintons' coattails. I won't mention any names, but I don't like them.

which will get quite nasty

The swift boating experience of Kerry should make everyone aware NOT to let themselves be mis characterized by ANYONE

However, if any candidate is evasive in answer questions regarding Iraq, Iran, health care, patriot act, etc., then if the respond with non-specific vicious rebuttals, we will have no better experience than 2004

it took to destroy Dean in Iowa?

His campaign responded immediately to the affair charge as well. The woman was overseas and the campaign was trying to keep her out of it. You have no fucking clue. How in the world do you think the story was killed?

until it became a media circus.

As an aside,
if the only way you can communicate is with profanity, and telling people "they have no f*ing clue", then shove it!!! /nt

You obviously didn't pay attention at all, or get your jollies bashing Kerry over any concocted line of claptrap. Shove it yourself.

until after the woman came forth.

However, I will accept that I am full of it on this incident, but the sloppy reporting that was done, should have alerted his campaign what to expect down the road, and in my view should have been more pro-active, and aggressive

to the fact that they were going to have to be prepared to scream louder than the media, instead of constantly buying into the media spin.

Sorry, that I lost my cool in my previous posts. I definitely did not present my argument accurately, and stand corrected. I just confirmed from Google that your representation of the events were right on

We can fight all we want until it comes to the Presidential election, and then it is critical we just get on the page the campaign is on and go like hell for two straight months.