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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:02 PM
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Hey Wingers: Would You Let Hillary Spy Without a Warrant?
Hey Wingers: Would You Let Hillary Spy Without a Warrant?
by clammyc
Sat Nov 10th, 2007 at 02:54:17 PM EST

And if not, why?

I only mention Senator Clinton as opposed to the other candidates because she is the one that makes them the most apoplectic but it certainly would apply to any other Democratic candidate. For me, the answer is an obvious no, but most likely for very different reasons.

You see, I think the whole “unitary executive” nonsense is just that – nonsense. As such, it should be abolished, destroyed and quite frankly ruled unconstitutional, just so it can be stricken from the realm of reality. Warrantless wiretapping is illegal. Plain and simple. And nobody should have that power – not a Democrat, not a republican, not anyone.

Of course, there are many – millions even, who think that warrantless wiretapping of American citizens on American soil by the Bush administration, not to mention the telecom companies who went along with this illegal charade and now want immunity for their crimes and complicity. Unfortunately, there are even some Democrats in Congress (thanks, Senator Feinstein) who have taken such a strong stand against the Constitution and rule of law that the lines once again get blurred between what is and what should never be.

But to have this power in the hands of a Democrat – let alone that Democrat is something that is inexcusable not because of what it is, but because of who would have that power. And this is how we should be talking about the latest illegal issue that seven years ago would never have even been a consideration of something to even talk about, let alone have so many people willingly excuse.

more at:
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2007/11/10/145417/71

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:09 PM
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1. GREAT point! I often counter RW talking points by saying--"..and if
so-called 'Slick Willie' did it. you'd still be okay with it?"

The faces are priceless sometimes...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:15 PM
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2. That's what I keep saying.
Maybe electing Hillary is the only way to get the Supreme Court to get off its ass do something about it. Because I'm not sure what a Democratic Congress will feel like doing.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:17 PM
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3. The right wing will freak if anybody from the left gets that kind
of power.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:24 PM
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4. President Hillary spying without a warrant?
How about President Obama outing a covert CIA agent, and claiming executive privilege over any documents, discussions, or communications touching on the matter?

How about President Kucinich attaching signing statements to every law he disagrees with?

How about President Edwards 'losing' billions of taxpayers' dollars, and refusing to investigate where it went?

How about President Biden fabricating 'intelligence' in order to start a war in the Middle East, and then handing no-bid contracts to companies in which his family members and friends hold shares?

How about President Richardson appointing an AG who will use the DoJ to oust political foes from their jobs, and effectively quash any investigations that might lead back to criminal behavior by the president or his administration?

The list goes on and on ...
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