There are 2 types of naval vessels. Submarines and Targets...

Postman

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Sat Nov-10-07 07:46 PM
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There are 2 types of naval vessels. Submarines and Targets...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=492804

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

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Submariner

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Sat Nov-10-07 07:49 PM
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1. Ain't that the truth

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MADem

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Sat Nov-10-07 07:54 PM
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2. Send in Naval aviation.....!!

http://www.history.navy.mil/planes/p3.htm

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Postman

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Sat Nov-10-07 08:28 PM
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3. Well...

in order to "send in naval aviation" you have to know that a submarine is in the local area to begin with...

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MADem

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Sat Nov-10-07 09:24 PM
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5. Gee, we'll have to fire up all those SOSUS assets, then, won't we! nt

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Captain Hilts

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Sat Nov-10-07 10:01 PM
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7. Spare us the nasal radiators! nt

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MADem

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Sat Nov-10-07 10:13 PM
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9. Which is bigger--the WATCH, or the WALLET???

:rofl:

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cloudbase

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Sat Nov-10-07 08:30 PM
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4. That's what all you bubbleheads say. n/t

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Captain Hilts

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Sat Nov-10-07 11:01 PM
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11. This is what you get when the Bush Admin proposes going down to 35 attack boats....

not enough to go around. He's killin' the navy.

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Captain Hilts

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Sat Nov-10-07 09:58 PM
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6. Okay, for beginners, this is a submarine...

And this is a target:

http://www.usstorsk.net/photoalbum/63_65edwards/edwards02.htm

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hootinholler

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Sat Nov-10-07 10:15 PM
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10. I took a similar photo of the Enterprise.

Being on a boomer and having a good camera my collateral duty was photog. Our shot was of the side.

-Hoot

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Captain Hilts

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Sat Nov-10-07 11:04 PM
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12. Friend of mine was on von Steuben...

and they were called to play some cat and mouse with some skimmers in the Med. Now, this isn't the sort of thing they normally did, but all the navy wanted from them was a cheery 'aye, aye' and off they went. It was a nice change of pace, especially since after a couple days the skimmers STILL hadn't detected them. Well, they get brazen and my buddy - who's a glowing tea kettle mechanic - gets his turn on the scope - rare treat - and he's looking at a destroyer and the sailors hanging over the side smoking cigarettes when one jumps up and points at the periscope. All that million dollar equipment and a guy sucking on a butt finds them!

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NutmegYankee

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Sun Nov-11-07 12:23 AM
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13. Oh come on!

Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 12:30 AM by NutmegYankee

THIS is a submarine!

And the best poster ever:

(it is a real poster - Visit the Sub Force Museum)

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Submariner

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Sun Nov-11-07 04:33 AM
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14. Nookie poos suk

I love the smell of diesel in the morning. :rofl:

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Captain Hilts

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Sun Nov-11-07 10:50 AM
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16. Half the reason I volunteer on an historic sub is for The Smell.

Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 10:50 AM by MookieWilson

ps. Real subs are named for fish, and that includes the glow boats named for fish.

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NutmegYankee

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Sun Nov-11-07 03:16 PM
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19. Glow boats ;)

You're not going to leave out the S-boats, and city and state boats are you?

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Captain Hilts

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Sun Nov-11-07 09:58 PM
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22. Yes, I'm a traditionalist...

I think subs should be named for fish. Wouldn't you rather be on the Sailfish than the City of Corpus Christi? Or the Entemedor rather than the Toledo?

Carriers should be named after Revolutionary War battles. Enough of this naming them after people!!!!

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NutmegYankee

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Mon Nov-12-07 01:41 AM
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23. We do have a history of naming ships after states though.

And the newest attack subs are named after states.

But I got your point.

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Captain Hilts

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Mon Nov-12-07 10:24 AM
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24. Yes. I know. nt

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Captain Hilts

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Sun Nov-11-07 10:49 AM
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15. GREAT photograph! Anyone have a link to the photo of Chicago at periscope depth? nt

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Captain Hilts

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Sun Nov-11-07 02:35 PM
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18. Found Chicago photograph - damn. Couldn't make the link work. nt

Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 02:36 PM by MookieWilson

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CorpGovActivist

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Sat Nov-10-07 10:09 PM
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8. Is China Paying for Iranian Oil with Those ...

... quiet subs?

- Dave

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hootinholler

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Sun Nov-11-07 11:06 AM
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17. I don't know, but Iran bought a lot of deisel boats from US...

During the reign of the Shah when we were scrapping diesel boats. When I went through sub school there was an Iranian barracks.

I happened to be there when the Shah fell. It was a tense couple of days as the Marines babysat them.

-Hoot

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krispos42

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Sun Nov-11-07 03:27 PM
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20. This is still why we need a submarine fleet

For stuff like Desert Storm and the Iraqi Invasion, they are not anywhere near as useful as a carrier battle group.

But our subs should be spendings LOTS of time off the coast of China, finding their D/E boats when they run up their snorkels and run their diesels and keeping tabs on them. This way, if the Chinese feel so inclined to have one of their boats interecept a surface group, we'll have a heads-up.

The usual way to tell a sub that they've been found is to have a helicopter drop it's dipping sonar down on top of it and ping the hell out of 'em.

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Captain Hilts

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Sun Nov-11-07 09:56 PM
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21. I just want to scream when I hear about submarines "fighting terrorisim." NO, that's not what ...

they're for.

They're for fighting China and Russia. Keeping them away from here, etc. That's reason enough for more subs. The sea is big.

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