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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 11:34 PM
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America: The warrior nation
From right to left, secular to God-fearing, what so few people know is that in the last half century, United States adminstrations have overthrown 50 governments-many of them democracies. In the process, thirty countries have been attacked and bombed, with the loss of countless lives. Bush bashing is all very well-and is justified-but the moment we begin to accept the siren call of the Democrat’s drivel about standing up and fighting for freedom sought by billions, the battle for history is lost, and we ourselves are silenced.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/08/3056/

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 11:37 PM
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1. Exactly.
"The business of America is business."

I believe that was C. Coolidge.

But the business of America is now domination.

And that is a fool's errand.
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Rabo Karabekian Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 11:43 PM
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2. I prefer United States of Amnesia
I think it was Howard Zinn who said the second most aggressive capitalist party in the history of the world is the Democratic Party.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:08 AM
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4. And what is the first?
I'm a college graduate in an information profession and I am shocked by how little I learned.
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Rabo Karabekian Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:00 AM
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5. Ejamacation is a Good Thing
Didn't have any Marxist sociology professors? Ha, ha...
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 11:57 PM
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3. If you invest in the largest military in world history, you tend to use it
It's all worthless bullshit.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:16 AM
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7. imagine the waste!
i once heard a preacher say that God knew 'He' had given liars and conmen and deceit and vice the advantage in its dealings with the world, so to offset that, and give humanity a chance, he sent 'His Son' (of course Jesus was just as ordinary as anyone is, otherwise the exercise woulda been a con just as bad as the wmd's in Iraq)...the preacher explained that Jesus put the human drama in a context anyone can understand-he was executed as a common criminal, after all. But even a fraction of the funds wasted on military (ie 'defense') easily totals what men spend on education, transportation, and health (it's about $2 trillion directly measured, with vast sums more tied up and thus denied society) In other words, Jesus was the enemy of waste, of dishonesty and ignorance, by forcing people to either listen to the simple message 'blessed are the peacemakers' etc or to try exploit the devilish 'us or them' concept! And the biggest mystery is that it's the 'christian' nations themselves, USA, Britain, France Germany etc, who are literally gonna kill everything, including God, while claiming they're god fearing and god worshipping etc; they are the ones leading the charge over the cliff! So Jesus was in fact fighting for his, or 'God's, life, by dying on the cross in order to open humanity's eyes to the fact the end is too real, and it's our responsibility to help God survive all the devil aka the busheviks and the nazipoohs and the tapeworms at foxnews etc, can devise in their evil brains!
well, i thought, poor God better NOT expect ME to do anything beyond raging silently and cursing the fates....i mean, c'mon
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:13 AM
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6. The time scale goes back a hundred years, not fifty
Arthur Silber writes extensively on this theme in his "Dominion Over the World" series: http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2007/01/dominion-over-world-iii-open-door-to.html

Woodrow Wilson was not the wonderful progressive many history books portray.


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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:25 AM
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8. Start with McKinley
and Hawaii, the Philipines, Cuba, etc. The corner was turned with full awareness and an open debate of what was being done, and what it would make the US. There was a huge anti-imperialist movement here, and it lost. That none of this is taught in the schools, though it was common knowledge to everyone at the time, is the real crime - tyrants rewrite history, secure their legacy, bury and forget the dead, make up a good story for us all to feel good about.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:13 PM
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9. I believe in the goodness of most Americans
It's the leaders they select that bother me.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:06 AM
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10. And yet at that time, the popular drive toward empire was beyond question
Leaders in dissent were voted out, leaders in favor were well rewarded by the voters.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:17 AM
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11. I was thinking about this when the poll went up asking about generations
and most of them were defined by a war.
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