First, they redefined torture - Democratic Underground

Xipe Totec

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 09:57 AM
Original message

First, they redefined torture

now, they're redefining privacy.

next, they'll redefine free and fair elections.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

proud2BlibKansan

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 09:58 AM
Response to Original message

1. And some are trying to redefine our party

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Xipe Totec

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #1

2. Which some, and in what way?

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

proud2BlibKansan

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #2

4. Wow how sad that you even have to ask.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Xipe Totec

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #4

5. I'm no mind reader

Nor do I wish to be.

Your cryptic jab leaves me singularly unimpressed.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Lerkfish

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #2

8. a minority, the DLC is attempting to marginalize the majority

and attract republican voters in the process.
In other words, they are dismissing the base and pandering to the right.

They keep claiming that what the majority of democrats want: end to the war in Iraq, impeachment, are fringe issues.

is that clearer?

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Xipe Totec

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #8

10. Quite clear. Thanks

I am aware of this constant lean to the right, and disapprove of it.

I just don't like to assume that I understand what people mean when they speak of change in general.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Lerkfish

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #10

11. no problem.

there is so much angst on this message board anymore that clear communication often suffers.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Richard Steele

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Nov-13-07 02:17 AM
Response to Reply #11

14. Hiya Lerkfish!

Nice to see ya, if you know what I mean! :hi:

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Gemini Cat

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Nov-13-07 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #8

13. Eventually the Democratic base will get tired of being

taken to the dance and thusly ignored.

You are correct. The DLC and their various enablers considers the war and impeachment "fringe" issues. I find that criminal.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Freddie Stubbs

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Nov-13-07 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #8

15. You are assuming that the base is enough to win election

Edited on Tue Nov-13-07 10:59 AM by Freddie Stubbs

And in some districts it is. But in swing states and districts, neither party can win with getting votes from those in the middle.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

L. Coyote

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 10:13 AM
Response to Original message

3. Fair elections were redefined in Florida 2000, illegal spying redefined privacy

in 2001. We need to redefine impeachment with a 2-fer. Impeach Bush and Cheney.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Whoa_Nelly

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 10:29 AM
Response to Original message

6. Those types of redefinitions pretty much come under the heading of Fascism

and I think in 2000 and 2004 they already did redefine the "fair" part re: elections.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Xipe Totec

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #6

7. I'm thinking Pakistani style free and fair elections.

After all, like Pakistan, we have a growing threat posed by freedom hating meanies.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

unpossibles

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Sun Nov-11-07 11:07 AM
Response to Original message

9. next? I'd say they've moved on from that one already nt

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

nadinbrzezinski

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Nov-13-07 01:46 AM
Response to Original message

12. Disaster Capitalism, also known as neoliberalism, and chiefly known

as corporatism... and it is extending its tentables all over the body politic

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

DU AdBot (1000+ posts)

Fri May 10th 2024, 11:24 AM
Response to Original message

Advertisements [?]

Top

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.