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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:09 PM Original message |
The Democratic Party is only 40% Liberal. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. You sure twisted the first paragraph's meaning. Amazing. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. the DLC has a stake in muddying the waters. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Well, the waters are getting muddy here at DU. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. It's not "mud". |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. lol |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. ROFL! |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
54. The operative word is 'growing', |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. More Importantly There Are A Lot More Cons Than Libs In The General Electorate |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Did you read the article? The OP misrepresented the premise. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. I Didn't Want To Pile On |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. The article is saying that Democrats are in effect taking the word liberal back. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. That's Fine With Me |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. I did not misrepresent the premise at all. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. No, you should really be ashamed for the way you spun it. |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Again, I didn't spin anything whatsoever. |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
70. What you're saying is technically accurate, |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
80. You don't know that the majority aren't liberals... |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Thats semantics and doesn't help anything. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. I'll bet they're "Cons" when asked about policies that affect others |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. "40 percent of Democrats now call themselves liberal" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. You really should apologize for that spin you just did. |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. I made 0 spin. |
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Rabo Karabekian (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't Really Think of Myself as Liberal |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
82. Well all I have for that is, |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. It is all in how you ask the question. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I think you are right if one doesn't believe complete agreement |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. Don't mistake words for reality. |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
77. Huh. Must be an English major. |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Liberal" |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. If you have the courage to say you are a "socialist", why don't you |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
45. Edit: meant to respond to 551788's post of his "shame" of being labeled liberal. nt |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
46. YOU let yourself get sucked into the Republican Noise Machine. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
15. Yeah, I'm thinking the dinos |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. Yeah, but 40% liberal on WHAT? Fiscal responsibilities? Social? I'm confused... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. i think you are fiscally responsible |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. And yet... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. it is hard, and we know how georgie hates hard, hard work |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. The Timing.... |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
20. Depends on what the label 'Liberal' means and who is defining it... |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
22. but they're good for at least 75% of the laughs. nt. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
25. Here is the FIRST PARAGRAPH without the obvious misrepesentation |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
89. Yay. That's me. Liberal. I dont know what this "Progressive" stuff is - where |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
26. The fact that 40 % are willing to identify as "Liberals" after.... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. The article was encouraging. The OP spun it. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
27. “In matters of conscience, the law of majority has no place.” Gandhi |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
29. Well, of course you're gonna get trashed for... |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. I fail to see where I spun anything. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I don't think you did, much anyway, but I was... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
37. LOLOLOL!!!!! |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
76. Lol! |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-11-07 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
40. If you cared for the facts you would have discovered that your "This means ..." conclusion is pure |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Your post confirms mine - how is mine BS again? |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #41 |
92. My post confirms that your statements were absolutely false and deceptive. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
43. My Liberal Is Your Conservative |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. There is no such thing as "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. You Said That...I Didn't |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. We're on the same page. :) -nt |
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TAZller (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Untrue.... |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Sorry, friend, you're talking about being fiscally RESPONSIBLE. |
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TAZller (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Wrong again... my friend.... |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. That is simply not true. |
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TAZller (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
75. If you're going to quote something.... |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. oh horsemanure. I worked in government... and not in any social programs. |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. You, too, are totally and utterly confusing the word "Responsible" with "Conservative". |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
61. Fiscal Conservatism Isn't What The Right Wing Has Defined |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Show me an elected Conservative that has voted to raise taxes. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. You Prove My Point |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. How is it inaccurate in any way? |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. One Cannot Simply Reject Reality and Substitute Your Own |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Well, I certainly see your point. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Well, I See Your Point Too |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
90. Of course there is. Always has been. Fiscally conservative may mean not |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
51. OMG! We're doomed. Doomed!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Beee Beee Beeker! |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
56. The definition of "Liberal" and Democrats really depends on "who" you ask ... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
59. I didn't know the constitution and the rule of law |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
60. Your appeal to isness offends me |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
65. Note all the users with |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I oppose the DLC. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I know its convenient for them |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I'm an extreme left liberal. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!! |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. I worked for Ned, thanks. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. If you say so. |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. I have a very nice knit cap to prove it. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Not me. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. I can think of three off the top of my head. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Just add maple syrup |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. I love this place. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
67. To balance out the cognitive dissonance in the universe |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
81. Don't do it!! |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-12-07 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
91. No such things as a "moderates." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
93. America is liberal --- I believe Chomsky on that one . . . |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
94. the word "liberal" has been demonized |
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