Latest Version of Clinton Explanation For Planted Questions(5 So Far)... LINK

When we last visited this disaster, here were the different attempts to diffuse the damage put out by the Clinton Campaign:

1. IT DID NOT HAPPEN. (We now know it did happen).

2. It was AN ISOLATED INCIDENT between two individuals who had a PREEXISTING RELATIONSHIP. (No, the young woman asking the 'canned' question confirmed the two did not know each other).

3. IT WAS LIMITED TO THIS ONE INCIDENT. (Others came forward and pointed out it happened to them at other events).

4. OK IT DID HAPPEN, BUT HILLARLY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE AND WAS NOT ADVISED TO CALL ON the young woman provided with the 'canned' question. (The Campaign official who gave her the 'canned question' told her Clinton had been advised to call upon her to ask the question).

5. NOW THERE IS AN ANNOUNCED 'OFFICIAL POLICY' of the campaign that 'IT' WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

"A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, denied that Mrs. Clinton was aware of the planted question or that she was directed to call on Ms. Gallo-Chasanoff. But he confirmed that the campaign aide planted the question. “It’s not something we do; it’s not an official campaign policy,” Mr. Elleithee said yesterday. “But it is now an official campaign policy that we will not do this moving forward.”

6. JOHN EDWARDS CALLS OUT HILLARY CLINTON for using the practice she has now admitted to using, and HOW DOES HILLARY RESPOND?

" One of Mrs. Clinton’s opponents in the Democratic presidential race, Mr. Edwards, used the incident to chide her, telling reporters yesterday that voters at campaign events “expect you to stand in front of them and answer their hard questions, and they expect it to be an honest process.”
“What George Bush does is plant questions and exclude people from events, and I don’t think that’s what Democrats want to see,” Mr. Edwards said in Iowa."

"In response, Mr. Elleithee said: “Senator Clinton has taken hundreds of questions here in Iowa and across the country from voters and reporters, and she will continue to. What George Bush does is attack the Democrats and divide the country, and John Edwards’s campaign is resembling that more and more every day.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/12/us/politics/12clinton.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1194872949-YA/DvCM0fYW4csV4tGGEOA&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

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So there you have it. Five(5) different iterations of the truth by the Hillary Clinton Campaign regarding this incident, and when John Edwards points out the truth Hillary Clinton Campaign brands John Edwards' Campaign as 'resembling' George Bush's practices 'more and more every day.'

The Bush administration refused to allow anyone that may have a different opinion in his speeches. And the questions were softball. No one was allowed a critical question.

Clinton's assistant suggested a topic to one who was already present. They did not limit who could attend, they did not prohibit questions that were critical. They suggested a topic.

And instead of acknowledge that it was stupid but not Bush, Edwards attempts to distort it and lie and then use it against her. He is lying. I am so disappointed in Edwards.

And I am disappointed in DU who does not see this for what it is, but instead will stoop to any means to put their candidate ahead. So much for differentiating between freepers and DUers. Morality is out the window.

I am so sorry you are disappointed in DU. Maybe you can find somewhere to post that does not hold candidates accountable for what they say which is not truthful.

But truth is an absolute defense.

If Hillary had just 'owned up' to what she did in the first place and promised not to do it again, this would have already blown over.

But she should know, it is the 'attempted coverup' that always gets you in the end.

I do not agree that someone should prohibit questions in a speech, or limit the type of people who could attend. And I know Bush did that...and that Clinton did not.

And I read your post, it is incomplete and does not prove that Clinton told lies. For example, if she was unaware that a staffer suggested to someone to ask about Global warming, it is not a lie to say it did not happen. You need more proof than that.

What Edwards is doing is absolutely lying and distorting. Are you willing to admit that?

How is Edwards lying for pointing that out?

Sorry but you have no support for your view.

It is as simple as that.

To promote a position for which there is no evidentiary support, and knowing that the position is unsupported, makes your allegations incredible.

to back up your claim that five different stories were told. You don't respond when I ask you either.

an aid asking someone to bring up the topic of global warming. Was it wrong for her to do that? With these last years of ugliness we want the appearance of upfront and honest--even when nothing is being done wrong.

You on the other hand are willing to give Edwards a pass for lying about what she did. For distorting it and suggesting that she did what Bush did..Those are lies...and yet you are not willing to acknowledge it.

Hypocrite.

The first response I read about it was on Taylor Marsh and the Clinton campaign admitted it happened. The admission came out shortly after the story broke. I saw Hillary saying she didn't know if it happened elsewhere. I'd like to know where you came up with these claims.

Planting a question is a far less offensive transgression than lying your ass off and feeding the GOP like Edwards does. Edwards must not be above staging questions himself because he's showing again and again he's capable of far worse.

Edwards was the one who had to admit they had planted a question. But I guess when you come from a place where right is wrong, left is right, up is down... I can see how you posted what you did.

You've been asked over and over about Edwards lying and you keep pretending you don't hear anything. That's the place where right and wrong don't exist. Its all us versus them to the Edwards fans. He can lie all he wants and they don't see the least bit of conflict in cheering him on.

I can admit planting questions is wrong. Can you, who claims to come from the moral equivalent of Google Earth, admit that Edwards lying about Hillary is wrong?

No problemo, right?

Blogs who mentioned it?
"bush haters!"

:crazy:

Edwards lied about Clinton when he suggested that she is doing what Bush did. She did NOTHING like what Bush did.

And to just agree, because you want to, without caring for the truth is no better than the freepers.

are all your fault, Blackjack!

WAAAAAHHHHHH!!! That John Edwards is a big meanie... he's LIKE BUSH! WAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Grow up. Hillary is a fucking liar, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking retard.

There IS a campaign that is resembling George Bush more and more every day.

And it's not that of John Edwards.

Rush has been using all Edwards' lies on his website and show. Today, Rush played the clip of Edwards lying about Hillary screening her audience and questions. Rush told his version of what Hillary did and Rush didn't go nearly as far as Edwards did. Pretty sick when one of our guys out lies Limbaugh when talking about another one of our people.

Hillary is nothing like Bush. What, beyond an accusation, do you draw on for that comparison?

Limbaugh. Edwards has to lie to tie Hillary to Bush.

who eject those she feels threatened by. She lies with ease. JUST LIKE BUSH! ...

Another Question Planted by Clinton Campaign

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3848826&page=1

One day after Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign confirmed that a staffer planted a question for the presidential candidate at a recent campaign stop, another person has come forward with a similar story.

Geoff Mitchell, a minister who recently moved to Hamilton, Ill., from Iowa, told ABC News that he was approached this spring by Clinton's Iowa political director Chris Haylor to ask Clinton a question about war funding.

Mitchell, 32, said that the request "did not sit well with me in the tradition of the Iowa caucus."

"I grew up in Iowa and I value the tradition of the caucuses of answering the questions of the people," Mitchell said.

Mitchell said he introduced himself to Haylor because he had heard of him before and knew that he had worked on Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh's campaign.

Before the campaign event, Haylor asked Mitchell if he would pose a specific question about Iraq. The question was about how Clinton would be tough on President Bush about funding the Iraq war, Mitchell said.



Hillary's goon squad....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUV-xEMgGUo

I would hope for more from our candidates. This is not what I was expecting from any of our Democrats.

just like repukes....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUV-xEMgGUo

Repubs would torture her endlessly if it became public that this was going on in the General Election Campaign.

blithering blithering stupid idiots...how many S.O.B. times will the obama supporters post over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over the same old shit...I guess the whole bunch added together have a collective IQ of 2.

BWAHAHAHA....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transference

"A new theory of transference known as AMT (Abusive Multiple Transference) has been suggested by David W. Bernstein, in which abusers not only transfer negative feelings directed towards their former abusers to their own victims, but also transfer the power and dominance of the former abusers to themselves."

Not surprising, disappointing but not surprising. Hillary's typical MO is to spin an issue, rarely does she address it directly. For instance the war. Even though she voted to enable it, and has continued to support it with her funding votes, she continues to claim that she is the candidate of peace, even though she also states that she will leave troops in Iraq, a live fire zone, to guard bases, train troops and go on combat missions against Al Quaeda.

I think that this issue of her spinning and being disingenuous may turn out to be a bigger negative to her campaign than the issue of planting question, though both are serious negatives.

Just more reasons I can't vote for her.

Someone in that campaign should have advised her to just admit it and say it won't happen again instead of going through so many iterations of the truth.

Sounds like she tried out several 'trial balloon defenses' before admitting she could not deny the truth.

She's done much the same with her IWR vote, sending up trial balloons like "I was fooled," "I was lied to," or even "It wasn't a vote for war". This is a standard operating procedure with her, and if she's not careful it will turn off a lot of voters.

Hilliary has lied many times in the past. Rose law firm billing records, the hiring of craig livingstone(FBI Files), firing of white house travel office, who she was named after and many more.
But her backers now want to call edwards a liar to divert attention away from more hilliary lies.
Edwards does not have to think before he speaks because he does not have to keep up with lies.
Hill on the other hand has to ponder easy questions because she does not remember her last position.

Some responses are just so cutting.... I am sure onelittleindian was devastated.

and doing a fine job of it, I might add.

Bullseye!

That will leave a mark!
:toast:

I am in awe.

Mmm! Thanks for the fantastic idea!! :9

What flavorings do you normally use on Hillary's boots?

You REALLY need to research ole Hill and Bill's connections with the
CFR and Trilateral Commission...

BHN

talking points here on DU!! Congratulations.

Same place as Edwards supporters come from?

How much print did the NYT give to exposing a Republican male prostitute lobbing softball questions to Bush's goon spokesmen at the daily White House briefing for more than a year.

Think real hard.

Don

Hill brought this on herself, just as bush brought Gannon on himself.

And 5 different excuses will result in 5 different stories.

Now let me ask you this. How much time or how many comments did Hillary make about Gannon? Did she author a bill to help stop that crap?

Oops, wrong thread.

Don

major, stupid, dishonest, un American, blunder.

Bill did the same thing, you know. Shot himself in the foot.

Did Hill think she needed her own Jeff Gannons to succeed? It's character flaws like this that bring down the high and mighty. They always think they aren't going to get caught.

Sad, kinda, when you think about it.

just like bush!

I won't be voting in the Republican primary.

lie about it.

With all due respect to Hillary supporters - sincerely - I find I'm trusting her character and integrity less and less.

This strategy (planting) would reflect poorly on ANY of the candidates. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm really sorry to see this happen.

It's BS. Questions were "suggested" but the questioners were free to ask whatever they wanted

And since you dont seem to be too concerned about which words you use, I'm sure you won't mind substituting the word "wonderful" for "despicable" from now on, right?

God forbid you use an accurate word to describe what happened

Hillary said 'I get this question from a lot of young people...'(paraphrased).

I think that amounts to creating a false impression.

I think anything that a candidate says or does that creates a false impression is despicable.

However, I allowed for the poster to use any word THEY wanted, the action was just same. You have somehow inferred that I 'don't seem to be too concerned about which words I USE' --which by the way is disingenuous on your part.

The people asking questions were free to ask whatever question they wanted to ask

And no, the action "plant" is not the same as the action "suggesting". That's why you're unwilling to use the word suggest, even though you say it doesn't make a difference

"I allowed for the poster to use any word THEY wanted,"

I'm not referring to a poster. I'm talking about you. Why do you use the word plant when it's inaccurate?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/12/wclinton112.xml

"The campaign admitted feeding Iowa student Maria Gallo-Chasanoff a soft question on what Mrs Clinton would do to stop global warming at an event last Tuesday.

Mrs Clinton began her response by noting that young people often pose this question to her before going into the benefits of her plan."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-ticket11nov11,1,724688.story?coll=la-news-politics-national&track=crosspromo

"Clinton campaign admits planting questions"

She called on a young woman. "As a young person," said the well-spoken Muriel Gallo-Chasanoff, "I'm worried about the long-term effects of global warming. How does your plan combat climate change?"

"Well, you should be worried," Clinton replied. "You know, I find as I travel around Iowa that it's usually young people that ask me about global warming."

There's a good reason for that, too. The question was a plant, totally rigged in advance, like a late-night infomercial. Just before the public forum a Clinton staffer had chosen the young woman, a student at Grinnell College, and asked her to ask that specific question.

Trouble is, the young woman told others, and her account showed up on the Grinnell website, including mention that the staffer signaled Clinton whom to call on."

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this, a lot.

Some suggested questions to ask:

1. Does your campaign feel that people need suggestions to come up with a question?

2. How many different times has your campaign suggested questions to potential questioners?

3. Do you prefer to answer questions suggested by your campaign staff?

4. Do you prefer to answer questions not suggested by your campaign staff?

5. Is this an indication of difficulty in answering spontanious questions.?

6. Why were there 5 different excuses offered? Which one is the truth?

7. Has plant a gate hurt your campaign any?

8. If you could suggest any question for me tio ask, what would it be?

9. How did your staff decide what questions to suggest?

10. Did your staff ever suggest a question, and then the person asked a different one anyway?

And I'm sure there are a lot more. Be creative and have fun.

Okay one more

11 What does this suggest to the American people about your campaign?

"If you could suggest any question for me to ask, what would it be?"

:rofl:

Of course that was shot down when the young woman in question clearly stated that she informed that Hillary would call upon her for the question.

I guess we might even see her supporters revert all the way back to #1, "It didn't happen', at some point.

It suggests her campaign feels it's necessary to create softball questions for their candidate to answer. It's dishonest, and it's truly "bushesque."

An aide did. And the aid pointed to the questioner for Hillary. If Hillary knew who was going to ask the question, why would the aide have to point?

I think John has hit on something here that has really struck a nerve with the rest of us - manipulating press conferences and town hall meetings.

I also think that John needs to come out and give more short answers like he has been doing lately. It's very effective, you know where he stands on these issues.

I like a guy that tells me his answer in 3 words or less, I don't like long-winded answers, the way Kerry used to answer questions.
Just be short and to the point.
Say "yes" or "no", and then maybe give a short reason why you answered that way.


But, please, no more of this type of pontificating - "well, in the long run when you look at it, you know when I first ran for the Senate, back in 1984, I could see then what I see now, and I know, that maybe a lot of other people at the time also knew, although they didn't stand up and tell you whether they knew or not, which is a lot like today, that things have changed and not always for the better. Look, we've tried this before and it didn't work then, and we've tried it in a few different ways, but they didn't work either, so you have to do it the right way and I believe that I know what that way should be. I have instituted a 5 point plan, after examining all of the options left to us, and have proposed that plan on the Senate floor. Now, President Bush knows this, but still he refuses to agree on a few minor points of my plan, and so we are stuck with the same type of malaise that we have today, that we've had now for several years in Washington."

But, the question wasn't at a debate about foreign policy, it was a question from your wife concerning if you were going to change the kitty litter in the cat box today, Senator Kerry!

So does Hillary.

The same question could have been raised by Hillary herself(but then that would sound just like George Bush asking himself questions and answering them).

Campaigns go to great lengths to 'stage' events to reflect most positively on the candidate. However, all campaigns know that 'planting questions/questioners' is not only wrong, but very dangerous if it comes to public light.

It is a question of 'to what lengths will Clinton go to win?'

Sounds like some stupid shit he'd tell her to do.

he's even slimier than Rove.

Anyone who is stupid or crazy enough to support her needs their fucking head examined.

Ron Paul supporters are a more sane lot than the Clin-tonistas.

de ja vue ...Jeff Gannon anyone??

this is sickening.

fly

So if you thought it was an isolated incident, you can forget that. In the CNN interview with the young woman she stated: "After the event," she said, "I heard another man ... talking about the question he asked, and he said that the campaign had asked him to ask that question."

And once the Clinton Campaign was informed of the 'story' she had told, this was the Clinton Campaign damage control: "...a Clinton intern spoke to her to say the campaign requests she "not talk about" the story to any more media outlets and that if she did she should inform a staffer."

The OP is supported at every turn as this story not only leaks out, but connects many other related incidents.


http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/13/clinton.planted/index.html

Student describes how she became a Clinton plant

"Gallo-Chasanoff, whose story was first reported in the campus newspaper, said what happened was really pretty simple: She says a senior Clinton staffer asked if she'd like to ask the senator a question after an energy speech the Democratic presidential hopeful gave in Newton, Iowa, on November 6.

"I sort of thought about it, and I said 'Yeah, can I ask how her energy plan compares to the other candidates' energy plans?'" Gallo-Chasanoff said Monday night.

"'I don't think that's a good idea," the staffer said, according to Gallo-Chasanoff, "because I don't know how familiar she is with their plans." Watch the student describe how she was approached »

He then opened a binder to a page that, according to Gallo-Chasanoff, had about eight questions on it.

"The top one was planned specifically for a college student," she added. " It said 'college student' in brackets and then the question."

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