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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:44 PM
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Georgia Governor leads "Pray for Rain" session; protestors kept away
from Atlanta Journal-Constitution:


UPDATED: 8:53 p.m. November 13, 2007
Perdue asks crowd to 'pray up a storm'
Drought is message from God to conserve better, governor says

By JAMES SALZER, JIM GALLOWAY
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 11/13/07

Gov. Sonny Perdue wasn't the least bit discouraged Tuesday after his hourlong state Capitol prayer vigil for rain ended with the sun shining through what had been a somewhat cloudy morning.

"God can make it rain tomorrow, he can make it rain next week or next month," Perdue told reporters who asked him if a miracle was on the way.

More than 250 faithful Georgians joined Perdue outside the Capitol to ask for divine intervention to end the historic drought.

"We come here very reverently and respectfully to pray up a storm," Perdue told those in attendance.

About a dozen TV cameras representing local and national stations and more than a dozen print reporters and photographers captured the ceremony. At one point a TV helicopter threatened to drown out much of the sound.

The Rev. Gil Watson, pastor of Northside United Methodist Church, urged those in attendance to "pray believing we should have all brought umbrellas.

"We have not been good stewards of our land. We have not been good stewards of our water," he said. "Lord, have mercy on your people, have mercy on us and grant us rain. Oh God, let rain fall on this land of Georgia."

...(snip)...

Twenty-two protesters were forced to stay more than a block away, out of earshot and out of sight of the prayer service, on Martin Luther King Jr. Drive. They were members of the Atlanta Freethought Society. Signs include "Hail Priest-King Perdue" or "Pray on the Church Steps, not the Capitol Steps." ........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2007/11/13/rainprayer_1114.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab



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melisa Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:47 PM
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1. OMG
This is why religion should stay out of politics.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:50 PM
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4. Them Rain Dance guys ??? Where are the Dancers???
((Rain)) ((RAIN))....Where are them Clouds???
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:14 AM
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35. he checked with the meteorology folks first..and planned the prayer-frenzy
for the day before a possible 40%chance of rain..so either way he "wins"

it rains? Thank you Jaysussss

It doesn't? Those damned scientist at the weather place don't know what the hell they're doing
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:41 AM
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44. Problem is...he's been doing it all summer long...
Perdue Prays for Rain
http://www.13wmaz.com/news/new_story.aspx?storyid=39707

June 13, 2007
By: Evan Pinsonnault

~snip~

As Georgia's drought continues, Gov. Sonny Perdue and close to 300 people appealed to a higher authority for help Monday.

Perdue, State Agriculture Commissioner Tommy Irvin, some Central Georgia farmers and others gathered at the Georgia Farm Bureau headquarters in Macon to pray for rain.

According to the governor and many farmers who attended, the drought of '07 has hurt the state's farming industry.

The lack of rainfall has delayed the planting of many essential Georgia crops, like peanuts and cotton.

Perdue says faith is what will lead the state out of the drought crisis.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:48 PM
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2. Willful ignorance ought to be a crime
Sonny the Dummy ...... oy
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:49 PM
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3. OMFG are you kidding me
i mean all those those politicians flout their religious beliefs on their sleeves everyday, but this is the equivilent of bending over and kissing your ass because you are in deep s&*$.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:53 PM
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6. I am sure that God can make it rain for those folks.
God can do anything, right?
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:51 PM
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5. if this is their solution, it's going to be dry for a long time
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:53 PM
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7. "We have not been good stewards of our land. We have not been good stewards of our water."
Oh, re-e-e-eally?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:54 PM
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8. I'll bet the virgins in Georgia gave a sigh of relief there are no volcanoes there.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:33 AM
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42. There are virgins in Georgia?
:hi:

J/K
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:35 AM
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43. I've been told there were one or two;
but there haven't been any sightings lately.

:rofl:
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:54 PM
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9. This Just In - Governor Draws on Cave Walls, Cuts Head Off Chicken
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:57 PM
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11. Oh, please. EVERYONE knows that you bury a smooth rock under a rotting tree for three weeks....
....if you want rain.

What kind of fucking moronic shit is begging?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:54 PM
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10. Well, I live here in N. Ga. and it hasn't rained YET!
There's no rain in the forecast for the next 5 days either! Sorry to break this to ya Sonny, but you really better come up with a better plan!
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:14 AM
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27. However, the weather forecast has been predicting some rain
on Wednesday. Methinks, Perdu and friends, checked the forecast before scheduling their prayer sessions.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:57 PM
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12. did anyone watch this on the news?
what was the context? brave people praying for rain to our benevolant god? or ignorant idiots who should spend the time doing something productive like drilling for water.
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DemInBuckhead Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:59 PM
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13. If God is vengeful, He'll say...
Edited on Tue Nov-13-07 10:00 PM by DemInBuckhead
...Mr. Governor, you ridicule the people who think we should protect the mussels in Florida which, by the way, were also my creation so that some asshole in Atlanta can have a nice beautiful green lawn. And also, can't you see I have a lot on my plate? So, I say let this drought continue on a bit longer and don't you ever waste my time with this nonsense again.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:59 PM
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14. Statistics say that it is bound to rain sometime
The gullible will believe it is divine intervention when it does...the sane will know it was just a matter of time.
So pretty much unless there were storm clouds forming out of a clear blue sky whilst he was pontificating and proselytizing...it wasn't prayer that did it.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 10:00 PM
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15. HAIL PRIEST-KING PERDUE!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 10:16 PM
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16. Here's a photo of ol' Sonny
Edited on Tue Nov-13-07 10:18 PM by Glorfindel
otherwise known as "Fudd, the Gweat and Tewwible Wizard" - as an afterthought, I was being thankful that I moved out of Georgia before this cretin was elected Governor (twice!), but then I remembered that I moved to Mississippi. Haley Barbour is even more absurd, and he, too, was elected twice.



;(
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 10:18 PM
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17. The Alabama Gov. did this back in July but it didn't help Alabama. nt
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 10:30 PM
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18. perhaps denying global warming wasn't such a good idea
or worse when all the fundies declared to rape & pillage the Earth because we'll be raptured anyway. By praying you're going against God's great plan to bring about the apocalypse. So be careful what you pray for, you'll probably get your rain...for 40 days and 40 nights.

The devil went down to Georgia and his name is Perdue.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 10:34 PM
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19. Pretty soon he'll be cutting out human hearts on a stone altar

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 11:05 PM
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20. I watched a YouTube video about the fallacy of prayer for rain a while back
...I just don't have the link and can't recall the video name
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:11 AM
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40. Was it the one from KingHeathen?
A guy from Georgia telling about Sonny Perdue praying for rain back in June and the weather forcasts all summer long...zero percent chance of rain, consistently. I believe it's titled "Praying for Rain" but ya gotta look thru a bunch of music vids to find it.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 05:40 PM
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51. No, but that sounds interesting.... it was a documentary style and
...it discussed the three possible results of prayer being a miracle or coincidence and the logic that regardless of what you prayed to, God or a door-nob, the same three outcomes would always happen
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 11:16 PM
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21. But Sonny, Gawd is too busy overseeing the outcome of high school football games
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:48 AM
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48. lol.. ...n/t
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 11:17 PM
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22. No words.
:eyes:
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 11:32 PM
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23. Look at this weather map
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/weather/index.html

It has been showing that cold front approaching for several days.

Nice timing sonny.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:16 AM
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30. Agree and people will believe a miracle of faith has occurred...
Humans common sense flies out the window when it comes to wanting to believe in miracles...

:eyes:
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:09 AM
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34. The fucked up thing
is that I have been pointing this out to people and way to many who should know better are falling for it.
What a sad day for Georgia.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 11:44 PM
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24. Keep dancin' to to rain god, Sonny. n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 11:57 PM
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25. if it rains does that mean they don't have to treat the earth good?
"Drought is message from God to conserve better, governor says"

if it rains only in some parts of georgia then does that mean those people who get rain are better christians than the ones who don't get rain?

if they pray real hard and it still doesn't rain does that mean that there is no god? or it is a cruel god? or god thinks they are all bad people?

will he be going to a fortune teller tomorrow to see if the prayers worked?

will they be calling on harry potter to conjure up a thunderstorm?

if it rains all over georgia will we be electing a priest or minister to the white house?

questions, questions, questions.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:16 AM
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29. The same people praying for rain are supporting activities
that are leading to global warming, hence less rain.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:28 AM
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33. ironic, ain't it? n/t
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:09 AM
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26. Time for the Atlanta Freethought Society to invest in a BULLHORN.
They can move you out of eyesight, but a chorus of bullhorns is hard to squelch (particularly if the wind is in your favor).

J
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:15 AM
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28. "protestors kept away" - - well, glory hallelujah.
:eyes:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:17 AM
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31. Jesus, you know you're fucked when "prayers of desperation" is on the day's legislative agenda.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:39 AM
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32. maybe God is punishing the state for some reason
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:15 AM
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36. Jeez, this is just embarrassing!
Like the people in other, smarter countries with fewer religious zealots don't already think we are a nation of idiots. Then something like this comes out and we look like medieval soothsayers or witch doctors or something. Good grief!

Hey, why stop with praying to an omniscient, omnipotent vending machine that gives you anything you want if you put in the right prayer coins? Why doesn't Perdue sacrifice a goat and a chicken while he's at it? Believe me, that will work just as well as "praying for rain"!

I am fascinated by the simple-minded conception of God that these zealots have. You just pray for rain and if you've been good all year round, Santa/God will bring it to you. So be good, for goodness' sake!

Does anyone remember a Doors song that starts with these spoken words?

When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there who put forth the proposition that you can petition the lord with prayer... Petition the lord with prayer... Petition the lord...with prayer!

"YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER!!!


So true.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:00 AM
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37. What could God be thinking?
Why didn't "He" know that there had been no rain in Georgia for such a long time? Maybe "He" did know......Maybe God isn't so pleased with how Georgia has been behavin' of late...Oh God Please save us from your followers....
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:10 AM
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38. I'm torn here
While I am glad that their little show did not produce an immediate
downpour, thus reinforcing their snake oil commercial, but if there
had been a sudden cloudburst, then the chances of lightning striking
them where they stood would have been greatly enhanced..........
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:11 AM
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39. What a friggin' NUTBAG! Why do they let these mentally ill people run governments???
Gov. Sonny Perdue wasn't the least bit discouraged Tuesday after his hourlong state Capitol prayer vigil for rain ended with the sun shining through what had been a somewhat cloudy morning.

"God can make it rain tomorrow, he can make it rain next week or next month," Perdue told reporters who asked him if a miracle was on the way.

More than 250 faithful Georgians joined Perdue outside the Capitol to ask for divine intervention to end the historic drought.

"We come here very reverently and respectfully to pray up a storm," Perdue told those in attendance.


Hey Sonny?? We got your rain up here in East Tennessee yesterday. Maybe god doesn't like you! :rofl:

What a nutbag!

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:13 AM
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41. I'm just so proud of my home state
LMAO

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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:51 AM
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45. The rain will come - hard
Oh, what'll you do now, my blue-eyed son?
Oh, what'll you do now, my darling young one?
I'm a-goin' back out 'fore the rain starts a-fallin',
I'll walk to the depths of the deepest black forest,
Where the people are many and their hands are all empty,
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters,
Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison,
Where the executioner's face is always well hidden,
Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten,
Where black is the color, where none is the number,
And I'll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it,
And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it,
Then I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin',
But I'll know my song well before I start singin',
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard,
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:57 AM
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46. good grief
Instead of standing around praying, why don't they do something about this? :eyes:

http://www.wjbf.com/midatlantic/jbf/news_index.apx.-content-articles-JBF-2007-11-12-0016.html
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:14 AM
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47. So Georgians -- has it rained yet?
Inquiring minds want to know!
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:18 PM
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49. Baal Angry. Need offering.
So the villagers went to the shrine and left all their food for the angry spirit, hoping he would release them from his rage and send the big water from the sky to the earth.

Are you fucking KIDDING ME?????

Please oh please tell me why I have to share the 21st century with such ignorant idiots! Why are they in the same fucking universe, breathing the same air as the scientifically enlightened and wasting space?

Religion=mind control. Get a clue, Fundies!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:19 PM
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50. "Baal Angry. Need offering."
:spray: :rofl:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 05:43 PM
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52. God must not have listened. It didn't rain last night or today.
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