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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:25 PM
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I hate that it's called a "Sherman Statement." I have nothing against President Cleveland

but I do think William Sherman would have made a great president.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:38 PM
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1. DO you really want to open that can of worms..?
Edited on Wed Nov-14-07 03:40 PM by hlthe2b
Whatever his strengths, he is well known for his slash and burn tactics in the South during the Civil War. He may have been fighting on the "good" side, per most, but when you destroy the homes and livelihoods of the civilians in your wake, it is a little hard to play the "hero."

That name will be forever hated in the South. And, even I, a staunch Westerner, knows that...:shrug:
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:45 PM
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2. Well, I'm a Southerner and the man is an American hero. Where your from doesn't change facts
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:51 PM
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3. So you consider war criminals to be heroes? nt
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:58 PM
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5. I'd like to be a fly on the wall if you made that statement in the
heart of the South, (and that is NOT Texas). Perhaps to the good people of Atlanta?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:04 PM
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8. In Louisiana we have two cannons seized from confederates that he gave to LSU
Edited on Wed Nov-14-07 04:05 PM by RGBolen
after the war proudly on display.

And if it wasn't for some kkk leaning people screaming loudly we would have had the adminstration or military science building named after him.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:16 PM
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10. Here's some choice quotes from your hero (not related to Civil War)
Edited on Wed Nov-14-07 04:16 PM by hlthe2b
The more Indians we can kill this year the fewer we will need to kill the next, because the more I see of the Indians the more convinced I become that they must either all be killed or be maintained as a species of pauper. Their attempts at civilization is ridiculous...
Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman

So, even if you "honor" this man's atrocities against civilians during the civil war, perhaps his viewpoints against the American Indian may inform you. This man was NO Hero. Several law school reviews have, in recent years looked at Americans in History that should have been brought up on War Crimes. Sherman and General Curtis LeMay (for his tactics against Japanese civilians in WWII) nearly always top the list.

http://lawofnations.blogspot.com/2005/08/historys-two-worst-war-criminals.html

SO glad you got your cannon, though....:eyes:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:59 PM
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6. Hero?
I'm a Southerner and I don't call burning the personal homes of people heroic... that would be a war crime today.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 03:53 PM
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4. I didn't know Sherman made his statement in 1884
when Grover Cleveland first ran for President. Guess you learn something every day.

Know why Cleveland was elected, don't you? Three reasons:

He was an honest man.
He was an honest man.
He was an honest man.
(Paraphrasing what his campaign manager said when asked for three reasons to vote for Cleveland.)
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:00 PM
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7. That and the anti-Catholic slurs at Blaine's rally that gave Cleveland New York
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:15 PM
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9. Oh yeah
I knew about that. Thanks for refresher on the history lesson, though.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 04:29 PM
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11. Blaine Blaine, James G Blaine! The continental liar from the state of Maine!
Ma ma, where's my pa? Gone to the Whitehouse, ha ha ha!
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