Chris Matthews on Hillary Clinton: "I Hate Her"

The outrage is no put-on. Aboard a recent shuttle flight to Washington, Matthews spotted New York Sen. Hillary Clinton. Earlier in the day, he'd been complaining privately that, as first lady, she'd rejected a health-care plan that would allow nurses to give care to public school students because it was "too narrow-bore."

"In other words, 'I'm not going to get enough credit for this,' " Matthews told a colleague in the cafeteria of MSNBC headquarters in North Jersey. "Madonna won't get flowers brought to her. I hate her. I hate her. All that she stands for."

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It's pretty obvious that Tweety hates Hillary. It's like he's devoted his show to demonstrating how much he hates her.

hating hillary -- or bill -- has really become something of a national past time.
tweety has to stand in a long line.

Really needs to get laid....we already know he gets all hot and steamy when thinking about men with bulging muscles....dunno, maybe someone could hook him up with....Jeff Stryker, he's like a 12" baby!

Tweety would think he'd died and gone to Heaven!

I hate Tweety....and Tim Russert, I hate him as well.


On Edit: Dammit spelling error

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Know, I put myself off my dinner after thinking and posting that set of comments....Lol!

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CNBC analysts like Margaret Brennan, etc.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh081407.shtml

Pretending....personally I think he hates women, he seems to have a problem especially with independent-minded women.

Well, Hillary's the most hated person on DU, so I'm not sure what that means (I don't think too many Duers want to be in league with Chris).

that Clinton isn't the most hated on DU.

Well, we could start rolling out the right-wing crazies (Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham, David Horowitz). You want to talk about hate, we could get some going.

that's ditto on liberal talk radio as well... I'd surmise most politically active self-identified liberals don't think much of Hillary, but she gets support from name ID and from those who pay little attention to politics. That's what's so suspicious about the UNLV audience last night, it's totally inconsistent w/ the kind of supporters she gets on the trail. The boisterous type normally would be the anti-war Dems who think very little of Hillary.

Should he be arrested?

however; how can Mathews claim that he an objective journalist when he is intimately involved in the story?

as objective. Even calling them journalists seems like a stretch to me.

THAT'S how you get your revenge, Tweety!

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rocknation

AND the price of tea in China?

...the appeal of Hillary Clinton.

why is she so popular right now?

Usually a democratic candidate is popular because of their charm and personality (likability), and/or their progressive ideals or both. But Hillary has a serious lack of the former and her progressive ideals are questionable at best.

The only thing she has going for her seems to be that her last name is Clinton (the name recognition) and the fact that she's not BUSH.

I don't talk to anyone who supports her. The only people I ever "hear" who support Hillary Clinton are posters on DU. In my day-to-day life, I just don't ever seem to run into anybody who actually supports her.

I don't trust the media, I don't trust their polls. I've seen enough bullshit over the past seven years to have grown cynical to the point of utter disbelief about anything I see on television news. If they clock at the bottom of the screen says it's 9:00 am, I now look out the window to see if it's light out.

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plane recently. Once we established that politics was a safe topic, he quickly asked me how I felt about HRC. He thinks she'll be the nominee and he's very excited about it. He also said he had the best airplane conversation ever when his seatmate was Gov. Richardson a few years ago, and he's very impressed with him, too.

You don't talk to a wide enough range of people. There are many people who already support Hillary, and another large group who would be happy to vote for her IF she is the nominee. (I'm in the second group.)

She doesn't emote on TV as well as some Democrats. But I think she suffers mainly from the comparison to Bill, the consumate politician.

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I have been on the fence in the primary. I was all about Obama, then after the first few debates, was warming to Hillary, then after I heard about her Social Security comments last night, I don't know where I am.

Anyway, what started to sway me toward her was getting excited about the chance to have the first woman president. Also, thinking about who would be best able to dig us out of the crap that Bush will leave, I honestly was thinking that Hillary might be best.

I don't make these comments to start an argument - just giving you some insight on why some people might be supporting her. I know she's corporate, I know she voted for the IWR and didn't apologize, I know she's more political and middle of the road than I would like, but I was looking past a lot of it. I really like Obama, I like Edwards, I like Biden, etc. but none of them inspire / excite me so much that I'm writing Hillary off. I'm not volunteering for anyone in the primary, and my vote probably won't matter once we get to Ohio. I'll volunteer for any of our candidates in the general.

Not because of her political or policy stance, necessarily, rather because of the sheer level of hatred towards her among the right. They won't give her the time of day, and the moment she is elected (if she is elected, the Whitewater and Vince Foster and Travelgate, et al, crap will become "news" again, and they hate which has a stranglehold on Washington will multiply ten-fold. She is not going to be able to bring people together.

If we were able to be sure of a super-majority of Democrats, at least we could steam roll over the GOP...but while we did, every tv pundit will have Pat Buchanan and the other GOP flying monkeys on twelve times a day to point out how horrible democrats are for America because we vote in lock-step.

It will be lose/lose for America. We need someone who is not so polarizing, or else we'll just be making things only marginally better, if at all.

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when I was thinking about it, I wasn't thinking so much about the polarizing effect she would have, but more about time in the White House and possible relationships with other countries.

IMHO - Bush has screwed so many things up in so many areas... From our relationships with other countries to the infrastructure in mine safety oversight, to FEMA, to FDA inspectors, etc...... I was thinking a Clinton presidency might bring more insight and experience to repair things more quickly. I could be way off - and you make good points.

is that what it's all about or not?

on that aircraft carrier.

Now he acts like it's *everyone else* who's finally coming around to realizing what a disaster the Boob is for this country.

And next year, if Hillary wins, depending on which way the wind is blowing, he'll love or hate her accordingly.

sometimes DU is like bizarro world. he mocks the district attorney all the time. it is pretty clear he thinks the guy is a fucking idiot

& Tweety would DIE to have HRC on his CRAP-CIRCUS!1

and gets us into another war he can start salivating over her like he did Bush. The dude (when not just being a propagandist) is crazy. He makes no sense=he was against war with Iraq, and has been shilling for Bush ever since. I wish he'd just go away.

Because whatever his criticisms of Hillary will be-they will be the WRONG ones. Like her hair or her laugh-or something she said one time-when she wasn't scripted. He's the worst political pundit on T.V.

I think his Hillary-hate is immaturity and right-wing think ---

I'm not a big fan of Hillary --- I would LOVE to see a woman in the White House ---

In fact, they should have made Eleanor Roosevelt president when FDR died . . .


Can I have Eleanor Norton Holmes, please?

Mary Robinson, please?

Ellie Smeal, please?

Maxine Waters, please?

Even Randi Rhodes ---

but Hillary is DLC and CFR --- and I don't trust her at all ---
PLUS Bill was in the WH and we didn't get national health care ---
and we got a lot of nasty, nasty trade deals which are doing us great harm.

Right wing tool. :)

in terms of personality, charisma, likeability, and "cool factor", raw sewage does come ahead. I think it's the fact that raw sewage is less full of shit than Matthews that makes it more tolerable.

Chris is pissed at both Clintons because this silly sombitch has never gotten over the fact someone else got the Press Secretary position after Mike McCurry left. That is it in a nutshell.

Ben David

job? I wonder if there is a story behind him not getting it. I can see why he'd be upset with Bill, but it doesn't quite explain his vile hatred of Hillary.

Their unprofessional attitudes would not have been allowed in the days when the media was free.

Chris Matthews

From Demopedia

Etymology of "Tweety". During Campaign 2000 the media noise machine was swooning over the nicknames Shrub was giving some of them. Media Whores Online ran a contest to nickname Chris MATTHEWS. In the first 3 or so weeks, there was no clear, catchy front runner, with "The Screamer" sort of leading. Then one of MATTHEWS's own Hardball staff leaked to MWO that they themselves called him "Tweety" because of the Clairol shade he favored. This was immediately declared the winner. But in some quarters, it wasn't entirely satisfactory. For one thing, by the time the name was declared, the shade had changed to platinum, leading to a suggestion he be called "Carole LOMBARD".

Plus, "Tweety" sounded too affectionate. Then M-TV held its 20th or 25th or whatever anniversary, and all the cable echo chambers were doing segments of Britney shedding her duds down to almost nothing. Not to be left behind, Tweety followed suit, with a guest "culture" commentator from Time Mag, the young humor columnist, Joel STEIN. The staff kept re-running the Britney clip, and Tweety was clearly DROOLING disgustingly. STEIN said, "You're beginning to creep me out." Tweety responded, "Yeah, well, wait till YOU're 50." This led to the suggestion that "Tweety" be modified to "Tweezer" to retain the hair reference while canceling out the affection factor and also adding the (dirty old) "geezer" angle.

Darrell HAMMOND "Doing" Tweety on SNL. Tweety's ego was massively stroked after the debut of HAMMOND's impersonation of him, either in 2001 or 2002. He said, "I am now an ICON: I have been 'done' on Saturday Night Live'." The funniest line in the debut was HAMMOND as Tweety, cracking himself up with, "For the...FIFTY...people who watch this show (Hardball, not SNL)..." In the first few times HAMMOND featured him, the target was Tweety himself--manically interrupting, spitting, and drooling. However, the characterization evolved, not true to the original, where Tweety became the "rational" character surrounded by oddball, extremist "guests", with HAMMOND-Tweety shaking his head in disbelief at their partisan spin.

"Turning" from Being a Democrat. He (like G.E.RUSSERT and Pat CADDELL) still trades on having been a Democrat in the CARTER/O'NEILL era. In the hothouse of big time political flunkydom, STATUS and POWER come from the SUCCESS of your boss. RAYGUN kicked Tweety's bosses' rears, and Tweety gravitated to admiring that "success". When he started up his media career he was mentored by G.E. RUSSERT, who had himself already started "turning" by "reaching out" to LIMBOsevic and expending his formerly-Lib-bleeding-heart on those poor wingnuts who had been maligned and marginalized, lo those many years. Tweety started doing video valentines to RAYGUN, walking arm in arm with Nancy. He might have tapped into the frenzy of the FAKE impeachment, but "hatred of the CLINTONs" isn't what made him turn. The last time he was identifiably a Democrat was sometime after 1988 when Hardball (the book) was published.

How Tweety "Executed" DONAHUE on MSNBC. Tweety was on his book tour for another one of his "books" (large type, wide spaces between lines, blank half-pages). It was in the jingoistic hysteria in the run-up to the illegal Iraq attack. The book was about supposed "Americanism" --an American Civ 101 ripoff about books and movies and cultural stuff that are essentially American (think, "The Great Gatsby"). So Phil welcomed him as a colleague and peer on Phil's show for the full hour to plug the book. From the moment he appeared, there was a strange, deadly snake look in Tweety's snake eyes. Phil was walking around, apparently not sensing anything, while Tweety was motionless, following him only with his eyes. Phil brought up something or other questioning blind jingoism, and Tweety STRUCK! He started out with venom dripping, "You see THIS is EXACTLY what's wrong with you Liberals: You are NEGATIVE about this country, you find NOTHING good about it," and on and on. It took awhile before Phil figured out what was happening. Later, Phil was sitting at the table with Tweety and, weaker and weaker, did some of his trademark shoulder shrugging and arm waving. Tweety delivered the coup de grace, "What's THIS (mimicking the movements)??!! What's with the --APE-- movements???" Days or a week or two later, Phil's cancellation was announced and took effect.

How Tweety "Triggered" a Gun Incident (re: Kathleen WILLEY). At the height of the FAKE impeachment, Ms WILLEY claimed that a mystery jogger had threatened her or her cat or somebody. Several months later, there was gossip that the jogger had been identified. Tweety hosted her and it appeared they had discussed the identity off camera. He tried mightily to get her to say the name on the air, which she wouldn't do. Finally, he himself blurted it out, "Was it Name/Surname?" She would not confirm it. Within days there was a bizarre incident, with the mentally disabled brother of Pat and Bay BUCHANAN going with a gun to the house of the supposed jogger, where there were only some foreign exchange students present. Later it was determined that the person Tweety named on the air had NOTHING to do with the supposed jogger incident.

"Heroes" Tweety and Tom DeLAY. In the aftermath of the 07-24-98 shooting of two Capitol police officers when the slain officers were duly eulogized and called heroes, Tweety latched on to this, the way we have seen him attempt to glorify himself in other instances: Like saying he was assigned in the Peace Corps and "WALKED THE SAME GROUND" THAT CHURCHILL passed through. Or when he said, "I am an ICON! I have been 'done' by SNL!". So now that the Capitol policemen were being called heroes, Tweety came forward to say that HE had been a Capitol policemen, TOO, JUST LIKE THEM, when he was starting out. It turns out that he had worked a (temporary?) job for three months as that. In all the years before the officers were shot and eulogized, he probably NEVER referred to that job, most likely thinking of it as a rent-a-cop turn, until he could see in retrospect the glory that he had been DESTINED to from the beginning.

But he is not the only glory hog. When that incident was happening, the news of the moment reported that Tom DELAY had hopped a plane out of town and immediately turned around in Houston when the incident was over. This show of courage is why he has been dubbed, "Tom-DePLANE!-DePLANE!-DELAY". But searches of countless news reports of that time show no mention of the hopping-the-plane. Only this is left:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/... "...House members, many rushing out of town, did not have to remain behind. DeLay slipped out the main door of the Capitol less than 15 minutes after the shooting. He looked stricken. Asked if he'd seen anything, he said, "Did I ever. I don't want to talk about it." Aides rushed him into his waiting car. ...."

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