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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 11:57 AM
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John Edwards featured guest on CBS Face the Nation AND CNN Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer
Edwards did well on both talk shows. It was a much better format than the debate where Wolf tried to cut Edwards off or talk over him, when he wasn't ignoring Edwards.

Edwards put forth thoughtful answers with specifics to Wolf's questions.

However, CNN could not let Edwards get away without convening a panel of 'Hillary Lovers' to smear him and sing the praises of Hillary, and Hillary only. They sung the praises also of the Hillary backers who dominated the Debate audience, and not a one indicated that allowing the audience to boo other candidates was against the rules the candidates agreed to --AND that CNN abdicated its responsibility to see that it did not happen.

Not a single positive word was spoken about Edwards or Obama in the entire piece by any of the panel --Candy Crowley, Dana Bash, Suzanne Malveau and Wolfie himself.

Hopefully the country will see CNN for the Hillary Endorsement Channel it is.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:01 PM
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1. I am curious--did you disavow Russert when he lead the
"attack debate?" Or are you partisan in your outrage of media bias?
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:03 PM
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2. I have no idea what you are talking about --'attack debate?" n/t
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:13 PM
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3. yeah. that is what I thought
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:19 PM
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4. I have no idea what 'you thought' --but without more information, no one can read your mind.
You can research all my posts at DU and you won't find me supporting 'Timmy' Russert's choice of questions and style of interviewing.

But I am not going to offer an opinion on something which you will not even identify.

You condemnation of my failure to do so just reflects badly upon you, not me.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:34 PM
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5. Hillary does nothing for me but John Edwards has my ear. I like
that he understands the real problems we face, corruption and corporate power out of control.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:45 PM
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6. Washington would know John Edwards is in the WHite House...'shaking up the place'
He would be the 'change agent' they do not want.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:55 PM
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7. What does hillary even
stand for?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:20 PM
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9. Corporate Democrats. nm
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:33 PM
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11. I was talking to my
son on the phone the other week, he's over on Kauai..and he said, "that female running for pres sounds like a republican". I'm sure he knows who hillary is..that was just the way he phrased it..but, I went into all the ways hillary does not impress me.

My son cares what's going on in the world but doesn't study politics..he can see right through cnn, bushit, and fakes, though.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:53 PM
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18. She's Republican light. nm
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:00 PM
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8. Edwards' Speaking Style and Cadence...
... is painful to listen to; I keep being reminded of how frustrating John Kerry's answers were last go-around.

Honestly, he reminds me of the small-town golden boy who was always a big fish in a little pond, who never had to hone his craft, and now feels he doesn't have to.

He needs a staffer who will sit him down in a room and some video, and say, "This drives viewers and listeners nuts when you do this."

Barring that, he needs a shock anklet and a staffer willing to use it.

- Dave
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:31 PM
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10. I have to disagree with you here....
For Edwards to try and change the way he speaks would be disingenuous.

One reason Edwards was so effective in persuading jurors in his cases was that Edwards did not pretend to be someone he was not. I believe he is correct to be himself. It comes across as genuine and registers with people that this is not a career politician.

Most people don't realize it but Raleigh-Durham-Chapel is not a 'little pond.' It is a large, progressive metropolitan area, and North Carolina is one of the fastest growing states in the country in terms of population size.

While his pronunciation and accent may not be preferred by many voters over that which predominates in the area in which they live, I don't think it will prevent him from getting across his sincerity and his desire to stand up for the middle class and the poor.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:51 PM
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13. Even Cate Edwards Calls Her Dad a "Hick"
Cate Edwards has poked fun at her dad's speaking style, and she's sharp. I'm guessing her time at Harvard Law these past couple of years has made her even more attuned to the fact that sharp, authentic Southerners don't have to cling to their accents like a security blanket, though.

Look at where Senator Edwards spent his education and his legal practice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_edwards

About the farthest he ranged from North Carolina was Tennessee. That has prepared him to speak to juries (and voter pools) drawn from those areas.

Now, don't get me wrong; I grew up in WV, and "speak Appalachian" fluently, when I'm there. Get me on the phone with my grandmother for an hour, and you'll hear the after-effects for about a day.

Edwards can "be himself" - and even keep the accent at a 9.5 - while still giving shorter answers.

I'm fully aware of the Research Triangle's upsides. Charlotte is a great city, too. But let's not kid ourselves about the composition of the juries Edwards was speaking to back when he was practicing law. They weren't reflective of America as a whole the same way that juries in similar-sized cities in California, Florida, or New York were during the same timeframe.

It's not his pronunciation and accent: it's the cadence and the sharpness of the substance. Voters without a "Southern ear" tune out.

Honest kibitz: he needs a staffer to do something that many college seniors have to endure nowadays. Namely, he needs someone to sit down with him in a room, and critique his interview style, giving him specific examples of how he could KEEP HIS MESSAGE INTACT, while getting it across more effectively.

This is the most important job interview of his life, after all.

- Dave
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:39 PM
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12. I have to disagree, too..
That's Edwards and may he shine and resonate in the hearts of Americans.

I actually like listening to Kerry, too..I heard him in person in Manchester, NH on Nov2, 2004. Didn't get to see him, though, because the crowd was too many(app 15,000) and I couldn't see up to the stage that far away..frustrating.

But, the corporatemediawhores made sure America loved the rattled tongue spewage of george wanker bush.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:31 PM
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20. Let me get this straight...
You're accusing one of America's premiere trial lawyers of not knowing his craft--not knowing how to speak to people?

Weird.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:01 PM
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21. Dumbest thing I have seen on DU in a week
That was just pure attack, and poorly executed at that.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:00 PM
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14. The establishment knows that republicans don't stand a snowballs chance in hell
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 03:01 PM by Snotcicles
of winning the WH, So they are going for the next best thing. The more they help her the bigger the reward.
Thats my opinion.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 07:12 AM
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22. The establishment probably wants "half solutions" to global warming and health care
Only 10 million people will be drowned or displaced by rising seas and hurricanes instead of 50 million. We will get health care for everybody, but it will be costly and the insurance companies will still make tens of billions of dollars off of it.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:12 PM
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15. CNN is not a Hillary channel
On CNN, Politico's Allen defends McCain response to "bitch" question about Clinton: "hat Republican voter hasn't thought that? What voter in general hasn't thought that?"
http://mediamatters.org/items/200711140011

CNN's Yellin on Clinton's alleged failure to tip: "hy get into a tiff with a working woman?"
Sunday, November 11, 2007 5:52PM
http://mediamatters.org/items/200711110005

Media reported on complaints about Clinton archives without noting concerns surrounding Giuliani's papers
Wednesday, November 7, 2007 7:34PM
http://mediamatters.org/items/200711080002

On Glenn Beck, Penn Jillette said recent Clinton statement "sounds like Charlie Manson"
Tuesday, November 6, 2007 9:25AM
http://mediamatters.org/items/200711060001

In report on debate "back-and-forth," CNN's Crowley rearranged Clinton's quotes
Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:44PM
http://mediamatters.org/items/200711020001

Discussing how Bill Clinton may affect 2008 election, Amy Holmes cited May 2005 poll
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:07PM
http://mediamatters.org/items/200710310010

Situation Room played up McCain attacks on Clinton over earmark, but didn't note his missed vote
Monday, October 29, 2007 4:47PM
http://mediamatters.org/items/200710290006

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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:05 PM
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16. Give Me A Break... There is Not ENough Space in all of DU to list their Pro-Hillary Comments...
Of course, I did need a good laugh! THanks!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:11 PM
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17. I don't believe any of these people are Democrats,
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 04:12 PM by Cleita
"Candy Crowley, Dana Bash, Suzanne Malveau and Wolfie himself". I know for sure Crowley and Blitzer aren't. Who cares if they like Hillary. How come they can't get any bonafide Democrats on the panel to sing Hillary's praises?
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:12 PM
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19. I like the way he speaks
As wells as Richardson.

They could both be 'polished' - but then I'd probably turn a deaf ear to what they have to say.

Think about it . . . President Numnuts was able to get votes from 'middle of the road' people who thought he's the kind of guy they can sit down and have a beer with. Joe Blow from next door. And he wasn't 'hiding' anything under his speech. He really IS a very stupid person.


Now certainly, there's not a single Democrat running for the White House that is NOT an exceptional person. They all - jmho - have some exceptional talents they bring to the table. However, that 'down to earth way of speaking' - could be very appealing to some apolitical voter in middle America who is questioning why they voted for Bush, don't like that 'Slick Ghouliani or Romney', and wants a Washington outsider. They are fickle, but sometimes dare I say it? They're also sometimes a bit simple in their approach to whom they pull the lever for.
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