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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:08 AM
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USNews: Bush will blame Dems if bill stalemate forces a government shutdown

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2007/11/16/back-to-gop-basics.html

Another big part of Bush's endgame is to take a harder line than ever with the Democratic majority in Congress as he tries to frame the 2008 election. Not only is he using his veto power to force cuts in domestic spending; he is demanding more money for the Iraq war and is threatening civilian layoffs at U.S. military bases to keep money flowing to the battlefield if Congress doesn't act. White House advisers are confident that if he can depict the Democrats as "tax and spend liberals" who are weak on defense, he will lift his job-approval ratings and perhaps help the Republican Party regain its reputation for fiscal discipline and for maintaining a strong military.

But the Democrats are developing a plan to outfox him. Capitol Hill strategists say they will soon stop sending Bush bills that he will veto because they finally realize they lack enough votes to override him. Instead, Democratic leaders seem inclined to combine a variety of spending bills into a single omnibus measure. That would come after Bush's State of the Union message in January, a speech which Democratic leaders and some Republicans believe will be a "ho-hum" moment that will cause more voters to tune him out. White House officials say if the Democrats send Bush a massive bill that he opposes, he will veto it and blame his opponents if the stalemate forces a government shutdown
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:09 AM
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1. so,
what else is new?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:11 AM
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2. In other news, the sky is still blue....
has Bush taken responsibility for anything yet? (I mean, besides "Mission Accomplished").
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:11 AM
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3. Remember all of that talk about "working together" at his last State of the Union?
By George, I think he was lying! :wow:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:11 AM
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4. Of Course
The Democratic Congress must clearly articulate that this is their responsibility in order to end Bush's failed war. Since the vast majority of Americans recognize that this is a failed war, the Democrats have the upper hand - IF they articulate a clear and comprehensive plan.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:47 AM
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5. Oh My God! Democrats Will Be Blamed!
They better give Bush everything he wants!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

"But the Democrats are developing a plan to outfox him. Capitol Hill strategists say they will soon stop sending Bush bills that he will veto because they finally realize they lack enough votes to override him. Instead, Democratic leaders seem inclined to combine a variety of spending bills into a single omnibus measure."

I'm sorry but this is a stupid plan, it will not "outfox" Bush. Instead of compiling a record of many vetoes that will demonstrate his obstructionism, the Dems will give him one giant, huge trillion dollar appropriations bill ... making the argument even easier for Bush against the 'irresponsible' Congress.

Pelosi and Reid really need to fire the political consultants and bring some regular, ordinary Americans to Washington to give them some advice ... until they start listening to average workers and taxpayers, they are going to continue coming up with these hair-brained ideas.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:54 AM
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6. From "Scenes I'd Like To See:"
Bush takes the podium, and says, "Mife Elbow Gherkins (he meant: My fellow Americans),
the state of the Union is strong!" Then all the Democratic members of the House and Senate
bust out laughing, rolling on the floor with mirth and shouting, "Good one, George!" "That's
the funniest one you've told yet!" and "That's better than WMD! I want your scriptwriter for
my next appearance on Letterman!"

OK, I can dream, can't I?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:56 PM
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7. But...most Americans are by now well aware how often Bush lies
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 01:02 PM by SpiralHawk
Bush has lied so often that -- especially on a domestic matter where the rubber hits the road -- no one with common sense will believe him.

There is still a noisy pack of retrograde kool-aid drinkers, of course, but their numbers are pathetic and appropriate to Commander AWOL's lack of competence and public approval.

The Vast Majority of Americans know by now that Bush & the republicon propaganda machine lies. They will not believe his lies this time. I'd bet a sack of doughnuts on it.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:59 PM
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8. his 'state of the union' ah yellow cake from Iran, aluminum tubes, i can hear it now.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:55 PM
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9. Clinton did the same thing in '95 and it helped him, but I don't think Bush is as politically
adept as Clinton was.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:57 PM
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10. He doesn't have much political capital left
He's so widely disliked, voters don't really believe him or care what he thinks.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:36 PM
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11. And Harry Reid will respond by giving him the dirtiest look he has ever gotten.
Right before he and Pelosi cave into him.
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