We may be arguing over the foreign policy experience of our candidates but

cali

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Wed Nov-21-07 05:59 AM
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We may be arguing over the foreign policy experience of our candidates but

do you know what the foreign policy experience of the leading repukes is?

None.

Rudy Guiliani was a mayor for 6 years

Mitt Romney was a governor for 4 years

(I'm not including Fred Thompson- his goose is more than cooked)

The conventional wisdom has always been that that governors are more electable than Senators despite their lack of foreign policy experience, because they have executive experience and don't have voting records to explain away. Things may very well be different now after 8 years of bush/cheney and the disasterous state of our foreign policy.

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Mythsaje

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Wed Nov-21-07 06:04 AM
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1. As I said before...

All they have to do is choose advisors with experience and judgment and any shortcomings in this area become moot. Better yet, the could actually LISTEN to their advisors and not fire them the first time they said something that contradicted their ideology.

Foreign policy experience might be desirable, but there's something to be said for a fresh set of eyes or a new perspective too.

This is one of the things I consider a non-issue.

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cali

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Wed Nov-21-07 06:10 AM
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3. I don't agree. It all depends on how successfully the lack of

experience in foreign policy is framed. Although I tend to think the biggest issue in 2008 will be the economy, smart framing on this issue can be effective. In 2008, no one is going to be able to effectively claim that "a fresh set of eyes or a new perspective" is what's needed- particularly when the repukes aren't offering a new perspective, but more of the same bushco stuff.

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smheart78

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Wed Nov-21-07 09:28 AM
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4. YOU CONSIDER THIS A NON-ISSUE!!!

That is exactly the problem with the last administration who put all their trust in their 'advisors'. At a time when it is CRITICALLY important to have true foriegn policy experiece and....respect, a voter can't simply write this off to good advisors. One has to look to Biden in this respect. World leaders know him, respect him and call on him. As Biden has said, "this person has no room for errors and better be smarter than their advisors!? He has alsoo said that he will not be anyones VP or SoS.

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Mythsaje

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:23 PM
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5. That doesn't fill me with confidence...

How many times has Bush THOUGHT he was smarter than his advisors? How many people have come forward and said "I tried to tell him...?"

The Bush administration is SO not a good example.

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Hippo_Tron

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:29 PM
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6. You're basically describing the Reagan Administration

And while Raygun certainly appointed competent people in comparison to the morons we have in office now, I certainly don't want another 8 years of Raygun.

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Mythsaje

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:36 PM
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7. His people were RELATED to the ones we have now...

In fact there's so much incestuous bullshit in here it looks like the Wrong Turn administration. Bring back the most foul cronies from the past, even if we have to dig them out of their graves. If you look back the backstop of the Republican administrations seem to be the same old names and faces.

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Hippo_Tron

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:37 PM
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8. Agreed, but again, they were competent compared to the ones we have now

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Mythsaje

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:41 PM
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9. You know...I actually think that a big part of the problem

is that Bush doesn't REALLY listen to anyone. He nods his head and says "okay" at the right spots andd then goes and does what he wants to. He's infected with their ideology, but thinks that God is talking to him. That makes him unpredictable as hell.

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Hippo_Tron

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:49 PM
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10. Eh I think he's more disengaged than anything

Take Katrina, for example. I'm sure preparations for it went something like this...

Bush: Hey Brownie you got everything under control?

Brown: Yes Mr. President

Bush: Great, have a nice weekend

Had Clinton or any other competent President been in office, he would've demanded an update every 30 minutes and confirmation that every single thing was getting where it needed to be.

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DFW

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Wed Nov-21-07 06:09 AM
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2. You are both right

Part of Clinton's foreign policy success was Al Gore, and Clinton's good
sense to both rely on, and learn from Gore in this respect. What a contrast
to the current disaster!

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