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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:41 PM
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Poll question: Afghanistan is about to fall to insurgents. Bet MSM ignores it.
When Tora Bora was in the news, some MSM heads even had maps and pretty graphics on the screen. They would show diagrams of make-believe four story tunneled complexes with factories, water, sewers, and electricity, and hidden entrances that no US trooper could find. Words like bunker busters, limited nuclear support and other weird concepts entered the lexicon.

and almost without warning, it all came to an end. We pulled out en masse from Afghanistan, and moved our massive military presence south to Iraq. sure, we have some troops in Afghanistan, but never enough to do the job.

We learn today that 53% of the country is in Taliban hands, and that Kabul is now threatened to fall to them. Shades of the USSR occupation, eh? What an insult to the USSR leadership, comparing them to George Bush. Yet, over the decades, the Taliban put a dagger in the heart of England, then the USSR, and it appears, into the USA as well. Maybe they have something against being invaded. Naw, that could not be it.

THIS FROM YAHOO NEWS:

LONDON (Reuters) - The conflict in Afghanistan has reached "crisis proportions," with the resurgent Taliban present in more than half the country and closing in on Kabul, a report said on Wednesday.

If NATO, the lead force operating in Afghanistan, is to have any impact against the insurgency, troop numbers will have to be doubled to at least 80,000, the report said.

"The Taliban has shown itself to be a truly resurgent force," the Senlis Council, an independent think-tank with a permanent presence in Afghanistan, wrote in a study entitled "Stumbling into Chaos: Afghanistan on the brink."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071121/ts_nm/afghanistan_taliban_report_dc;_ylt=AmuRf4PkFR.LTxgPlwHkCRas0NUE


You won't hear Bush talk about it. Besides, it would put lie to his claim that his policies there were a success. You won't hear it on MSM, because it is turkey day, and on turkey day, getting interviews of kids in line for a parade, or following up on Drew Peterson's dating habits a decade ago, are far more important.

One group of people may hear about this, but in a bad way. Our democrat party leadership will see Afghanistan falling to their own citizens, and watch them vote for Bush's little supplemental bill, funding the two occupations.


So, will this bad news from Afghanistan cause Nancy to vote in favor of Iraq/afghan funding?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:44 PM
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1. There was not more than 50, 60, I think.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=116&topic_id=13367

AMANPOUR: More than two weeks of bombing, solid intelligence, the U.S. had thrown its biggest bombs, its most sophisticated missiles, bunker busters, daisy cutters, at bin Laden, but somehow, some way, it wasn't enough.

BERGEN: The policy of using very limited number of U.S. Special Forces on the ground calling in airstrikes and a large number of Afghan ground troops worked brilliantly at overthrowing the Taliban, but at the battle of Tora Bora, it was a total disaster.

AMANPOUR (on camera): The plan was for Afghan and Pakistani soldiers to block any escape routes, but Osama bin Laden managed to slip away through the mountains. And the mission to capture or kill the al Qaeda leader failed. By most accounts, the main problem was not enough American soldiers on the ground.

BERGEN: By my calculation, there were more American journalists than American soldiers at the battle of Tora Bora, and that fact kind of speaks for itself.

BERNTSEN: In the first two or three days of December, I would write a message back to Washington, recommending the insertion of U.S. forces on the ground. I was looking for 600 to 800 Rangers, roughly a battalion. They never came.

AMANPOUR (voice-over): Also hunting bin Laden in Tora Bora, then Afghan militia leader, General Mohamed Zahir (ph).

(on camera) Do you have any idea how many American soldiers were at the battle of Tora Bora?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was not more than 50, 60, I think. There was not more than that at that time.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 05:04 PM
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2. Thank you for posting this...
Too much of a huge deal has been made of the Dems "growing a bit of a spine" in blocking the small amount of funding they blocked. They also got a lot of good press for arranging to block any Shrub recess appointments over the TG Holidays. The candidates all seem to be lining up behind the new courage factor. So I don't see, even with major problems in Afghanistan, how they could buckle and not face an enormous backlash. (But shure'nuff, now that I've let myself feel a miniscule particle of hope, they will.)
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