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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:03 PM Original message |
Should fireplace fires be banned? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. yeah, because it's not the corporate-generated pollution that is the problem |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. I hope not. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. In Santiago, Chile they fires in fireplaces have been banned for many years. Their |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. Oh, I hope not... |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. NO. They shouldn't. |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. thank you |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. If EVERYONE did their part it sure would help. No one expects |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. No, it wouldn't help, not even a little |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #23 |
71. It helps by setting an example of concern for the environment. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
72. BTW, I've already read Lovelock's piece. We have a DUTY to mitigate |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Nice satire, but I think you've overdone it a bit |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Not admitting that the developing world needs to NOT develop |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. "the world can no longer tolerate fair" - superb |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. As far as fossil fuel powerplants are concerned... NO, it can't |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. You're really advocating one rule for us, another for them, are you? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Yeah, I don't think we'll have any choice in the matter |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Two things |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. that's the part I don't get |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. OK, thanks |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 05:07 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. You haven't thought this through at all, have you? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 06:22 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Why are you continuing to spin over-development as a right? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 06:24 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. So you're in favour of banning all cars all over the world, then? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 06:32 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I want to keep my car and I don't want everyone else to have one (nt) |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 06:38 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. So you are in favour of discrimination, then (nt) |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Yes. I want everyone on earth to walk or take public transport except me (nt) |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. But where will the sweet love be made down by? |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. On the kitchen table, by the stove, with a pie. |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. A clinical presentation would be most appropriate. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. You gotta be shittin me! |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Not really. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. "global warming hysteria"?... |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. The editorial writer left out one pertinent fact: it's a ban for Spare the Air days only. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. The "global warming hysteria" seems to indicate he thinks it is a myth |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
10. Modern woodstoves are far more efficient and, even without catalytic converters.... |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. IFF serial polluters like The Southern Company are made squeaky clean. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yeah, fireplaces provide the minimum of heat with the maximum |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. We have many "no burn" days here in Phoenix |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. Could there be neighborhood watch-groups, |
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Esra Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
17. It's sad to see so many feel this way. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
24. It helps cut down on the heat we use for the whole house. |
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SalviaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
26. In my town... YES YES YES |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Welcome to DU, SalviaBlue |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
58. Thank you! |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
27. More fireplaces, fewer furnaces, I say. |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. On cold, windless days, I can't use my yard. It's the air. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I can't go out for a run. The air's too bad. nt |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. just wait until peak oil really takes hold... |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
29. hmmm, if you did, then would you have to call it 'Not-fireplace'? |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
31. No...it's pretty unenforceable... |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
34. Simple answer, for once: There are catalytic converters you can install in |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. What about outdoor firepits? |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I'd say not a significant source of pollutants, along with campfires. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. On no burn days, I wouldn't want to burn anything. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Well, if there's a place that has "no burn days," then I'd agree that nothing should be burned |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #46 |
69. Phoenix has them when particulate level reaches a certain point. |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
35. Only in Florida. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
36. Something else to add to the Ban Wagon? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
37. No. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Firewood? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Sorry.... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I take it |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. You're |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
40. They'll have to pry my fireplace |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Hey! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
50. Field burning, cleaar cut burning, oil well gas burning, any others to add. ?? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
51. Fond Memory: Smoke from Juniper (aligator) Pine burning in fireplaces all over Flagstaff. |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
53. Burning a fire in my woodstove as I type - |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 07:29 AM Response to Reply #53 |
68. My hands smell like wood smoke as I type. I just loaded |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
55. I think I have to go burn something immediately. n/t |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-23-07 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. NO! |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
67. During inversion periods, absolutely. We have many of those here in Phoenix |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
70. It's a matter of volume, I'd think. Are there enough home fireplaces in the U.S. to make ... |
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