Here's a thought. If all the rabid shoppers were as enthusiastic about voting,

babylonsister

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:25 AM
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Here's a thought. If all the rabid shoppers were as enthusiastic about voting,

we'd be going places, either way. I wish we could inspire such enthusiasm to vote, and how could or would that happen? First point: they have to care. I guess that's the missing element. How to let people know they HAVE to care? Maybe we're the nuts?

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madeline_con

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:28 AM
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1. Maybe it's best that people dumb enough to go along with

every dumb marketing ploy NOT vote. We'd never get the Repugs out the WH!

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JVS

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:29 AM
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2. You can only vote once. Rabid shopping lets you spend many times

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porphyrian

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:31 AM
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3. You're assuming they'd vote intelligently or in our best interests.

There's a real possibility that greater voter turnout, especially of the rabid shopper variety, would make things even worse, given how easily manipulated they are by corporate interests. Be careful what you wish for.

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babylonsister

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:35 AM
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4. I'm sure there were rabid Dem shoppers, too. I'm not faulting anyone

for shopping, but just wish I'd see that enthusiam for voting.

I actually did, in 2004, so I guess I'm being cynical. I remember those lines, in the rain, and people did try to vote, for hours. I so wish the system was true and valid and honest. x(

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porphyrian

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:44 AM
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5. That last sentence underlines a major reason for the apathy.

The system is broken. The candidates don't represent most of us, they represent corporate or otherwise moneyed interests. If we do go through the trouble to go to the polls and pick one, you can't even be sure that your vote is counted. And, like my situation in Florida, because of the actions of others that were completely out my control, my primary vote, and the primary votes of all Democratic Floridians, won't even matter. So much for Get Out The Vote, ours doesn't even fucking matter now.

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skipos

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:48 AM
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6. 45% weren't inspired to vote in McGovern vs. Nixon and Bush vs. Kerry

If those elections don't inspire you, I don't know what will.

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Justitia

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Sat Nov-24-07 01:01 AM
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7. I hear ya, but maybe the dude pitching a tent in the Best Buy parking lot since Wednesday

is not our best hope for a common sense presidency - LOL.

As to your point, yeah, it's rather disheartening, I know.

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silverojo

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Sat Nov-24-07 03:28 AM
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8. Here's how:

Have HUGE sales on election day, have voting booths in the dept. stores and malls, and say that every customer who votes will get an additional discount.

The turnout would be INSANE!!

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Basileus Basileon

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Sat Nov-24-07 03:28 AM
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9. And if they put as much thought into voting as they do purchasing, God only knows what we'd elect.

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Warren DeMontague

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Sat Nov-24-07 03:32 AM
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10. Some people in Ohio waited 11 hours in line to vote in 2004.

This idea that "The American People" don't give a shit isn't true. The corporate media doesn't WANT them to give a shit, and the Powers-That-Be make it as difficult as possible FOR them to give a shit (or vote, as illustrated)

but the idea that "the American People" don't care is like the idea that "the American People" are anti-choice, or the idea that "the American People" didn't protest the Iraq War in large numbers before it started (we did) or the idea that the "Values Voters" are all-powerful.

They're media-fed lies.

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