This is a question about Indian blood

My great great great great grandmother on my maternal side was an Indian Maiden from Virginia.

Does anybody know what degree of Indian blood that comes down to me having. I figured if it is fractuned every generation it would be
My great great great grandfather (their son and my line) would be 1/2 blood.
My great great grandfather (the next in line) would be 1/4 Indian blood.
My great grandmother (next) would be 1/8
My grandmother (next) would be 1/16
My mother (next) would be 1/32
And I would be 1/64

Is this the way it is figured. I never thought of it before.

but if she was your great great great great grandmother, she lost that status somewhere along the line.

but your great great great grandmother wouldn't have been a maiden.
;-)
What Tribe. My Great Grandmother, according to family legend, was a Cherokee.

You are very fortunate.

Photo of a friend, part Eastern band Cherokee:



even when they are blond and blue eyed (as a surprising number are-even a few elders) the bone structure truly sets them apart!

But I don't have a drop of any amerindian. Even when I was hypnotized and sent back to numerous previous lives, one in the very region, I only managed to be Seminole. Ever since the age of 13 when I saw my camp director's wife, Josie Steck, a full-blooded Cherokee woman with white hair down to her thighs and not the least bit young...my god, she was the most beautiful woman I've ever seen...I have always wished to have Cherokee genes...or to get a few somewhere to pass down.

Of course, I may be biased by early susceptibility. To be fair, we had a stockboy who was part Sioux, and women would remove engagement rings before coming into the store and saying hi! to him. It may well have been the Sioux bits that impressed them.

that none of the spouses of any of the ancestors that you mentioned had any "Indian" blood themselves. If even one of them did, then it throws the entire calculation off.

Referring to people as "indian maidens," for example, doesn't get you many points on the Redman Scale.

I thought it might just be me.

she and many of her friends always laugh about white people who talk about an ancestor who was an "Indian Maiden" because it's become such a cliche. It's also an oxymoron, as a "maiden" is a young virgin- and therefore wouldn't have any heirs.

what is kind of ridiculous is that in some places everyone through your mothers generation would or could legally be considered Native American, these days there are some benefits to that in my state MN you can get secondary education free(that would be collage, trade school, ect), but really by the time you are down to double digit fractions, does one really deserve it was that the purpose of the law?

but I wasn't looking at that. I just wanted to know the descendant. And they were married. By the Indians and by a Minister. My grgrgrgrgrandfather had 20 children all together. He was married first in the early 1700's to a white lady who died. He then married the Indian and they had 12 children, I am descended from the Mattaponi Indian.

but her orphanage in MN burned down, so don't even know tribe. would like to do that DNA thing. maybe we aren't souix. my grandma even had the classic front teeth. and she was only a 1/4.

very few Natives are 100% Native anymore, and many tribes will only except those who are 1/8th or greater. The Cherokee-the largest tribe-is the most lenient, sometimes excepting those with as little as 1/32 Cherokee blood.An acquaintance of mine, Valerie Red-horse, had a heck of a time getting Federal recognition even though she had very good documentation. Between those trying to scam the casinos and a stingy government, there's little in the way of "handouts" to those who have been robbed of so much in this country.

They are a predominant family in their tribe... They don't have to do much to prove who they are... Of course, my husbands grandmother was full blooded and lived on the reservation until she died a few years ago...

grew up on the rez, so she didn't have any trouble-but many others do.It really depends on the tribe more than anything else.

at a tribal level, it was for my daughter she was applying for an educational grant that included a living stipend. Her dad is 1/2 Black and 1/2 Ojibwa, he was adopted as an infant by a Black couple it was a privately arraigned adoption his birth and adoptive families lived less then a mile apart, so he knew his birth family. I had no documentation just an explanation for the tribal councle. Thankfully they were very accepting of this and she was awarded the grant.

qualified to go to secondary school, to go for free.. but that is besides the point. Yes, it is important to realize that Indians are still not treated well. Reservation life isn't that good... and anything they can do to better themselves and educate their children is a good thing... My husband is a tribe member and I have to still enroll my child. It is my intention that he learns his heritage and learns the Native ways and works to help better the tribe. Beleive me, they are not living in the lap of luxury on the reservations... Its still tough.

:wtf: Indian Maiden? blood?

and the reason I said Maiden is because I did now know what they were called. I thought Squaw would be offensive.

"My great great great great grandmother on my maternal side was a Native American (Mattaponi Tribe) from Virginia."

it was from a spokesman from that tribe that I first heard it,

the reason I said Maiden is because I did now know what they were called. I thought Squaw would be offensive.

:argh: :banghead:



Bitwit1234, the word you're looking for is "woman".

if she was any sort of mother, grandmother, great or not, she wasn't a maiden.

Melungeon.
Cherokee maybe Cree too. On both sides,so it combines.I probably would make the 1/8th thing.But I am not sure if I want to join the tribe or not, not sure if I can now because I'm over 18..Been invited to join by some Cherokee friends. I dunno what I wanna do concerning it.I got my papers on one side all mapped out,my fathers side the Indian seems to be even higher concentrations but it's being pieced together.I think maybe his brothers are enrolled,not 100% sure yet.But regardless I find I don't fit in with White culture,Black culture or Indian cultures,they all say that I am ok with them,but I think just feel alienated by the whole human world sometimes.Strange tho I am into Egyptian stuff,and I dress a unique style that quite without intending to incorporated traditional Cherokee dress style in modern fabrics in a weird Egyptian Cherokee mixture,and I met the fabulous night panther long ago in a very profound dream,I was haunted by his image and guidance, years later I find out by seeing a book with rock drawings, he is a Manitou.

There is a very superficial/commercial aspect to Indian culture, but also a very profound side. If you get into it you will become a part of (and battered by) both, but you may find more that is real.

Here's a photo that may give an indication of what to expect. Your dream suggests you might find the more what you seek. PM me if you want to see/receive a higher resolution version.

The history of the world is flowing thru your veins. And, from what you write, you're welcomed in places some of us can never go.

Sounds to me like you're just working out the details of your personal journey...and still aware of how many separate and amazing journeys are joined within you.

... was a native american. So I am 1/8th by blood. You couldn't tell it by looking at me, but I have verified that this is true. In fact, my grandmother looked 100%.

I have had the fortune to have met and spend time with some of the elders on the Hopi Mesas. One time I stated that I was part Native, my great, great grandfather was said to be Black Foot.
I was asked "which part was Native American?".

Families often tried to hide it, but you probably have more ancestors that are Native American. White, black and red mixed a lot. Some could hide, others could not.