Critics raise red flag over fluoride in tap water

Source: Globe and Mail

Nearly a half-century after water fluoridation became widespread, a small but growing number of medical officials and environmentalists are again raising concerns over the practice.

Recent research is suggesting that fluoride may be connected to a number of serious conditions, including the development in teenage boys of osteosarcoma, the rare bone cancer that killed Canadian icon Terry Fox, reduced intelligence levels in children, and impaired thyroid function.

In Waterdown, Ont., a suburb of Hamilton, Cindy Mayor has approached her city council and asked that it stop fluoridation for the area's 500,000 residents. "Here we are, mass-medicating with a drug," she says. The activist frets that fluoridation could be one reason for the growing number of people being treated for lowered thyroid hormone levels.

... While those complaining about fluoride were often portrayed as a kooky fringe - typified by the 1964 movie classic Dr. Strangelove, in which a demented U.S. general feared fluoridation was a communist plot - fluoride criticism has recently gone mainstream.

Although the research linking the chemical with serious conditions is disputed, critics of fluoridation say that at the least it indicates a review of the practice needs to be conducted.

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Plenty of "Corporate Financial Statement" benefits, though:
if the factories that PRODUCE it weren't SELLING it to add
to our drinking water, they'd have to pay big bucks to properly
dispose of it under the "toxic waste" laws.

There's only so much they can sell to use as RAT POISON-
they have a lot left over.

Just curious.

poison streams of water have made me tired... I love my Gogi juice.. it helps to erase the lines of grey around me that come from this poison.

was you could always spot the natives because of their mottled teeth which was caused by the natural fluoridation in the drinkng water.

Must not be around. I was steeled for the diatribe about anti-science woo-woo shitheels, but I guess it's not to be this time.

and during a dental checkup with my 3 year old son, the dentist asked me if we had lived in a mining area as his teeth were beginning to get mottled.

in the AM to counter BS from the likes of you.

Go ahead, don't fluoridate...bring untold suffering.

Hey, I'm not on this anti-fluoride wagon. I don't have a dog in the race. So far I haven't heard any good evidence to suggest that it hasn't helped. Quite the contrary, actually.

I just know these are the kinds of threads you jump into with both feet and were wondering when you'd show up.

Someone needs to counter this stuff.

go re-read your post and then come back here and say: I'm so sorry, I must have all this misplaced hostility and sarcasm at 4:45 AM. On second thought, I accept your post as an apology...it's not worth getting into one of these 'DU discussions' when I have a 6 day week in front of me dealing with the problems of legitimate individuals who matter to me.

who lived in the copper mining areas - early 1950s - drank water that was naturally fluoridated which created brown spots on their teeth. They were people who were born and raised in the area and not everyone was affected. But the condition was certainly obvious to those who were. I hoped there was some way to erase the spots and I'm certain one has been perfected.

It was just one of those shit happens things!!!

and how they have given more time and money to charity than all other DUers together could in a thousand lifetimes. Oh and how no matter the topic has forgotten more about it than "you and 20 generations of your family will ever know."

They'll chime in, it's actually pretty funny.

In case they need a rallying cry.


Gawd... What with the antivaxers and the antifluoride contingent, there's always someone trying to use a handful of misinterpreted data as an excuse for making our lives worse.

The same dentist told me the fluoride made his teeth stronger.

If you had, you'd have realized that I compared the anti-fluoride contingent to both the fictional Cavity Creeps and to the real-life anti-vaccination campaigners, and I remarked that they were using misunderstood data to make our lives worse.


Or in other, simpler words:


Fluoride good! Me LIKE.

well water. None in my family has had a cavity since we lived here.

compare the teeth of the average english person with those of an average american...

we floridate- they don't.

but then- we also eat A LOT more sugary treats...and then there's the meth...

NOT internally..

In fact, fluoride's efficacy as a dental aide was discovered
because people in places where the water had high levels
of fluoride (such as Lubbock, Texas) may have had mottled
teeth but they also had very, very few dental cavities.

A dosage rate was then determined which provided the
dental benefits but avoided the mottling and bone-
embrittlement that occurred with mega-doses of
fluorides.

Tesha

hmmmmmmmm?

I grew up in Colorado Springs where our water is naturally fluoridated by the earth on the Front Range and the two dentists I've had in my life have said that kids who grow up in Colorado have perfectly strong teeth for that reason. The normally porous regions are all filled in with fluoride, they say, and I'm likely to never get a single cavity as a result.

This played out in the 50s & 60s. Only then the conservtives (who opposed fluoridation for many of the same reasons) labled the move to fluoridate water as a Communist plot. The progressives generally supported fluoridation.

Same or better decline in cavities than US -- without fluoride. But the sky would fall here if that poison were removed from our drinking water.


http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/teeth/caries/who-dmft.html

In previous anti-fluoride threads here, Flouride Alert
has been shown to have posted lies or told half-truths
on their web site -- Why would we believe anything
posted there?

Tesha

Previously, when this was last argued last month or so, they
were caught including the damning info and excluding the much-
larger body of exculpatory evidence.

I wouldn't trust them farther than I can "OK, now spit!".

Tesha

cavity rates and fluoride status with the WHO information -- looks like it adds up to me.

I will add this is for children age 12 (as stated on the chart).

Michigan puts flouride in the water, Indiana doesn't. There are a whole lot of people with bad or no teeth on the Indiana side of the border.

I have bad teeth, so my history is not comparable, except to point out that my uncle and grandmother both lost all their teeth by the time they were my age (43). I've only lost one, not counting the wisdom teeth that were dug out because my jaw was too small to accomodate them. My mom and I have been able to save out teeth, despite our british heritage, partly because of flouride (Grand Rapids had it first!) and, in my case, partly because of orthodontics.

and I haven't brushed my teeth since I was like 5 years old... Yet I still have all my teeth. I gotta say that's worth something.