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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:58 AM
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Bush and his puppet Maliki sign deal to keep U.S. in Iraq forever
Edited on Mon Nov-26-07 12:01 PM by ProSense

U.S. To Stay In Iraq Forever

By Spencer Ackerman - November 26, 2007, 9:52AM

What? Permanent U.S. bases in Iraq? I've never heard of anything so absurd! Why, you -- you -- you conspiracy theorist! How can you be so shrill, so irresponsible, so, so, so...

Oh, wait.

Iraq's government is prepared to offer the U.S. a long-term troop presence in Iraq and preferential treatment for American investments in return for an American guarantee of long-term security including defense against internal coups, The Associated Press learned Monday.

The proposal, described to the AP by two senior officials familiar with the issue, is one of the first indications that the United States and Iraq are beginning to explore what their relationship might look like, once the U.S. significantly draws down its troop presence.

Make no mistake: this is Nouri al-Maliki offering the U.S. a permanent presence in return for guaranteeing the security of his government. (Would-be PM Ayad Allawi can't make President Bush a counteroffer as good as that.) In exchange for a platform for the indefinite projection of American power throughout the Middle East, the Bush Administration probably considers protection for Maliki and his coterie to be a small price to pay. No wonder the negotiation of a mandate for foreign troops in Iraq at the United Nations -- where this deal would begin to take shape -- is one of Bush's new post-benchmark benchmarks.

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Permanent Bases Watch

26 Nov 2007 10:58 am
The Bush administration may not have succeeded in building a democratic government in Iraq, but it has succeeded in building a corrupt, brutal, and sectarian government that's willing to "offer the U.S. a long-term troop presence in Iraq and preferential treatment for American investments" as long as the United States promises to help secure Maliki's government against foreign and domestic threats. This should serve as a reminder that one reason US policy in Iraq keeps failing to produce a stable government, is that American policy objectives are in many ways incompatible with the goal of stability. An unstable Iraqi regime lacking in state capacity or legitimacy is going to be heavily dependent on the United States to maintain power and therefore more susceptible to American influence.


White House Releases "Principles" for Permanent Iraqi Presence

By Spencer Ackerman - November 26, 2007, 11:12AM

So it begins. After years of obfuscation and denial on the length of the U.S.'s stay in Iraq, the White House and the Maliki government have released a joint declaration of "principles" for "friendship and cooperation." Apparently President Bush and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki signed the declaration during a morning teleconference.

Naturally, the declaration is euphemistic, and doesn't refer explicitly to any U.S. military presence.

-- Iraq's leaders have asked for an enduring relationship with America, and we seek an enduring relationship with a democratic Iraq. We are ready to build that relationship in a sustainable way that protects our mutual interests, promotes regional stability, and requires fewer Coalition forces.

-- In response, this Declaration is the first step in a three-step process that will normalize U.S.-Iraqi relations in a way which is consistent with Iraq's sovereignty and will help Iraq regain its rightful status in the international community – something both we and the Iraqis seek. The second step is the renewal of the Multinational Force-Iraq's Chapter VII United Nations mandate for a final year, followed by the third step, the negotiation of the detailed arrangements that will codify our bilateral relationship after the Chapter VII mandate expires.

A "democratic Iraq" here means the Shiite-led Iraqi government. The current political arrangement will receive U.S. military protection against coups or any other internal subversion. That's something the Iraqi government wants desperately: not only is it massively unpopular, even among Iraqi Shiites, but the increasing U.S.-Sunni security cooperation strikes the Shiite government -- with some justification -- as a recipe for a future coup.

Notice also the timetable. The U.S. and Iraq will negotiate another year-long United Nations mandate for foreign troops in Iraq, which will expire (I think) in late December 2008. According to today's declaration, following the forthcoming renewal at the U.N., "we will begin negotiation of a framework that will govern the future of our bilateral relationship." That means that during Bush's last year in office, the administration will work out the terms of the U.S.'s stay in Iraq in order to, at the very least, seriously constrain the next administration's options for ending the U.S. presence. Even if Bush doesn't take the audacious step of signing a so-called Status of Forces Agreement -- the basic document for garrisoning U.S. forces on foreign soil -- while he's a lame duck, the simple fact of negotiations will create a diplomatic expectation that his successor will find difficult to reverse.

Not stated, of course, is that Iraq would represent a military commitment opposed by most of the American people. Nor that it would represent codifying an unpopular war into an unpopular, indefinite war. Nor even what that commitment would entail. Here's the "principle" behind future U.S.-Iraq security ties:

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Iraq Shiite pol defends Iran against US

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:12 PM
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1. Iraq Kurds defy Baghdad on oil deals

Iraq Kurds defy Baghdad on oil deals

2 hours, 27 minutes ago

ARBIL, Iraq (AFP) - The autonomous Kurdish regional government in northern Iraq defied Baghdad on Monday, vowing to sign more contracts with international oil firms despite the national government's opposition.

"The (regional) government will continue with the contracts and they will be implemented," its prime minister Nechirvan Barzani said.

"No one can cancel any contract of the KRG (Kurdistan regional government) signed with foreign companies," a defiant Barzani told reporters in the regional capital Arbil.

Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain Shahristani has declared all oil contracts between the Kurdish administration and foreign companies null and void, saying they have been signed illegally in the absence of a national oil law.

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U.S. lowers bar for political success in Iraq (more on Bush's failed foreign policy)


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Sean Stuart Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:12 PM
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2. Translation:
Iraq is offering the United States the opportunity to continue sacrificing American soldiers for the Iraqi government's dysfunction into perpetuity, and in return the United States will enjoy the right to continue sacrificing American soldiers for the Iraqi government's dysfunction into perpetuity.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:17 PM
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4. Don't ignore the admitted raison d'etre: "American investments".
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Sean Stuart Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:22 PM
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5. "D'etre" indeed. The whole reason we invaded.
The Iraq War has resulted in a significant shift in wealth from the working class to the wealthy elite. "Mission Accomplished" was no mistake.

The Iraqi government needs us in Iraq because they cannot govern and are happy to sacrifice our soldiers because of it, and the wealthy want us in Iraq because it facilitates the shift in wealth into their own bank accounts, the deaths of soldiers for them is not a factor one way or the other.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:36 PM
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14. In return the oil barons will make more billions.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:14 PM
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3. Oh, fuck
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:22 PM
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6. White House Releases "Principles"
Yes, Bush** is a bona fide Abe Lincoln. He released his principles long ago.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:23 PM
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7. Lyrics of the song I'm listening to are very appropriate at this moment >>>>>>
Layin' It On The Line - Starship

You see it every day in every way
We all hear the same routines
They all say that it's okay
Just let us take care of everything

So we lay it on the line

Chorus:
Layin' it on the line, layin' it on the line
Layin' it all, right on the line
Just layin' it on the line, layin' it on the line
Layin' it all, we're livin on the front line

I can see it in the faces
We got trouble in the streets tonight
And power keeps us in our places
And it doesn't matter if you're left or right

You lay it on the line

Layin' it on the line, layin' it on the line
Just layin' it all, right on the line
Layin' it on the line, layin' it on the line
Layin' it all, right on the line

Take it to the wilderness
Into the jungle sun
Lookin' for the voice of reason
Inside this Babylon

Got U.S. boys on foreign soil
Spillin' their blood to keep the peace
Cities will vanish in turmoil
While the sheiks lay sleepin' on the beach

We lay it on the line

Layin' it on the line, layin' it on the line
Layin' it all, right on the line
Just layin' it on the line, layin' it on the line
Layin' it all, right on the line
Layin' it on the line
Just layin' it all
Layin' it on the line
Just layin' it all
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:24 PM
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8. The gift that keeps on giving!
US corporations will carve up Iraq like a...wait for it...turkey on thanksgiving.

I doubt the mullahs will just sit back and let George's benefactors pillage what is left of Iraq, but with so much DU radiation floating around Iraq, their brains might already be slowly melting as I type this.

Our beloved American government is

Sad

Pathetic

Wrong.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:33 PM
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9. Question
Does Saddam have any living sons or daughters that could take over this mess and at least return it to the relative peace and order Iraq had before the USA invaded?

Seems like a great "Plan 9 from Outer Space" to me!

-85% Jimmy
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:33 PM
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10. up until the Iraqi agree to give the warmongers their oil the usa will have troops there
hell it looks like we'll have troops there into the foreseeable future to protect the bush/cheney cabal's oil
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:54 PM
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11. That is of course until the next Islamic revolution. Sounds just like
Iran 1953.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:07 PM
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12. I suspect any agreement between bush and Maliki won't be worth
the "paper" it's written on. Iraq only needs to look to the bush cabal's adherence to agreements, treaties, laws, etc, to know they don't have to actually honor any agreement and, I suspect, when they dump Maliki, they will dump this agreement along with him, they certainly should, imo.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:19 PM
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13. Spinning success using inflated numbers of Iraqis returning home

Pressure for Results: The Politics of Tallying the Number of Iraqis Who Return Home

By DAMIEN CAVE
Published: November 26, 2007

<...>

The survey found that 46 percent were leaving because they could not afford to stay; 25 percent said they fell victim to a stricter Syrian visa policy; and only 14 percent said they were returning because they had heard about improved security.

Underscoring a widely held sense of hesitation, many of those who come back to Iraq do not return to their homes. Clambering off the bus on Sunday, a woman who gave her name as Um Dima, mother of Dima, said that friends were still warning her not to go back to her house in Dora, a violent neighborhood in south Baghdad. So for now, she said, she will move in with her parents in southern Iraq.

Raad al-Kihani, a prominent Shiite tribal leader in Baghdad and supporter of the prime minister, said that most people returning were still restricted by the fear of sectarian violence. “There are no Shiite families moving back to Sunni neighborhoods and no Sunnis moving back to Shiite neighborhoods,” he said.

<...>

The Displacement Ministry offers 1 million Iraqi dinar, about $800, to internally displaced families who can prove they have returned home with a letter from the police and their neighborhood council. But the movement has been limited. As of Thursday, 4,358 internally displaced families, about 25,000 people, had returned to their homes in Baghdad, the ministry’s registry of payments to returnees said.

Furthermore, people are still leaving their homes — 28,017 were internally displaced in October, according to the latest United Nations figures. In all, the United Nations estimates that 2.4 million Iraqis are still internally displaced, with many occupying someone else’s home.

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UN refugee agency warns against return to Iraq
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:49 PM
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15. The gift that keeps on giving. Stuck in Iraq. Surged into a quaqmire.
Will the payola be included in the operating budget for the Big-Ass Embassy, or will it be separate? Will we have to pay off the Kurds and the Sunni, too? Is Hunt Oil fer or agin us? Will we use American forces or Blackwater, or will we use some on one side and some on the other?

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 03:54 PM
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16. Which Democratic Presidential Candidates are "IN" on this scam?
Edited on Mon Nov-26-07 04:02 PM by bvar22
Which "wing" of the Democratic Party supports this War Crime?

Which candidates have pledged to keep "Combat Troops" in Iraq to "protect American (corporate) interests"?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 03:56 PM
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17. CNN's bizarre reports; other news

Official: Bride, groom stopped in Iraq actually terror suspects

From Mohammed Tawfeeq
CNN

BAGHDAD (CNN) -- Soldiers manning a checkpoint near Baghdad stopped a wedding convoy to find that the purported bride and groom were wanted terror suspects, an Iraqi Defense Ministry official said Monday.

The Army set up the checkpoint last week in the Taji area, about 12 miles (20 kilometers) north of Baghdad.

The soldiers became suspicious of the convoy because its members -- save the "bride" -- were all male and because one of the cars in the convoy did not heed orders to stop, the official said.

<...>

Upon inspecting the convoy, soldiers found a stubbly-faced man, Haider al-Bahadli, decked out in a white bride's dress and veil.

Bahadli was wanted on terror-related charges, as was his groom, Abbas al-Dobbi, the official said.

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Commander: Citizens, extra troops help 'crush' al Qaeda in Iraq

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Attacks are down 75 percent in recent months in a perilous stretch of neighborhoods in northeastern Baghdad, prompting a U.S. military officer to proclaim Monday that security there is "dramatically improving."

People line the streets, cars congest them, trash collectors and other city workers have returned, local leaders are holding community meetings again and "markets have come back like gangbusters," said Army Col. Don Farris, commander of 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division.

He added that the largely Sunni al Qaeda in Iraq presence has been "crushed" since the beginning of May.

However, there are still dangers, most notably the threats posed by Iranian-backed Shiite militants, Farris said.

Speaking to Pentagon reporters via video link from Baghdad, Farris cited several factors he said contributed to the improving security situation. Among them is the "surge," the additional U.S. troops deployed earlier this year.

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Reuters:

* BAGHDAD - A car bomb killed nine people and wounded 30 near the Health Ministry in Bab al-Muadham street in central Baghdad, police said.

BAGHDAD - A roadside bomb wounded two civilians in the Waziriya district of northern Baghdad, police said. A second roadside bomb exploded when Iraqi security forces arrived on the scene, killing one soldier and wounding six others, police said.

BAGHDAD - Four bodies were found in different districts in Baghdad on Saturday, police said.

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AP:

11 relatives of Iraqi journalist killed

By SINAN SALAHEDDIN, Associated Press Writer
Mon Nov 26, 11:23 AM ET

BAGHDAD - Masked gunmen stormed the family home of a pro-Baath journalist and killed 11 of his relatives, colleagues said Monday, as Shiite legislators denounced a proposal to ease curbs on former members of Saddam Hussein's ruling party, dimming hopes for the U.S.-backed measure aimed at national reconciliation.

Dhia al-Kawaz, editor of the Jordan-based Asawat al-Iraq news agency, was in Jordan when his sisters, their husbands and children were reportedly killed in Baghdad. According to the news agency's Web site, witnesses said more than five masked gunmen broke into the home and opened fire, then planted a bomb inside.

"Sectarian militias killed 11 family members of Dhia al-Kawaz," the agency's statement said, apparently referring to Shiite death squads that frequently target minority Sunnis and their supporters.

Mohammed Salman, a colleague of al-Kawaz in the Jordanian capital of Amman, confirmed the attack in the northern neighborhood of Shaab, a Shiite militia stronghold. Al-Kawaz, his wife and children live elsewhere.

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 04:12 PM
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18. Reminds me of the movie Braveheart
At the battle of Falkirk:


Robert the Bruce: Mornay, Lochlan?

Longshanks: I gave Mornay double his lands in Scotland and matching estates
in England. Lochlan turned for much less.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 06:34 PM
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19. Oops! Link here:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 06:44 PM
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20. there are NO "principles" among thieves
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