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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 08:55 AM Original message |
Should we combine greater welfare with breeding restrictions? |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. How about education and access to contraception? |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
64. Here in Texas |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Thus explains the need for education and access |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #73 |
148. In your post # 1 you said the only birth control |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #148 |
161. Have you ever been on welfare? |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:23 AM Response to Reply #64 |
211. Texas needs free mandatory sterilization. |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
78. Works in other Industrialized nations |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
106. Yes |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. We should start by ending the tax-penalties against Single persons |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Indeed! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. I'm afraid that one is going to be a hard one to sell. |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
77. Really? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
119. People have children for ALL kinds of reasons. |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Well that response implies something else |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
127. Fine, then sign a waiver for accepting any emergency services from younger people. |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
212. and increasing taxes on couples. |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
4. Please forgive the following limerick: |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Hehe |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
5. First off, using the term "breeding restrictions" in your OP |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Oh, I see... You have a problem with precise language. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
48. no, Gman has a problem with the connotation of the precise language you chose. |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
91. You've obviously never heard of PR. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. OP must never have heard of the eugenics movement either |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #98 |
134. I'm not making the very same arguments as the eugenicists. |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
6. You may not be a kook |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. How is it "racist" if it's applied universally? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
100. Try reading. This time with comprehension |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
101. Not just in the South, my friend. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
7. Breeding restrictions? Oh my. |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Might be a case of do it now or do it later and uglier |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
8. No Conceivable Bureaucracy, Sir |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
103. Propriety and justice has never been the aim |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:45 PM Original message |
And then there is that.... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
9. Yes, you are. n/t |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. LOL |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Best reply |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
163. Wish I could nominate that reply H20 Man |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
12. End corporate welfare which dwarfs social welfare spending n/t |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. ... |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:12 AM Original message |
"Breeding" restrictions? |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
21. Like in a human population management program |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
93. How are you going to enforce this in other countries? |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
17. Well, I have to say you make a very strong case... |
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fed-up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
70. BINGO! best reply to thread ever :) nt |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
20. no that is odious fascist bullshit. |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Says you |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Says me and just about everyone else here except you. |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. And I could counter that you're a selfish bastard |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. You have no data to support that assertion. |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Sure I do... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #34 |
62. government enforced breeding restrictions. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
108. rex is obviously ignorant of the history of the eugenics movement |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. No "true" non-fascist has ever supported any kind of "breeding restrictions"? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. I don't understand your point |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
111. You don't need to defend yourself, endarkenment... |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
109. This is just so |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
162. You don't live in a vacuum either. |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
23. No, you're not a kook. |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
24. Welfare, as in corporate welfare at the pentagon? n/t |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
25. I'm pro choice |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Took the words out of my mouth |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
38. The ability to take care of them is affected by what the society does, though |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Yes, it would be poor form |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Do you need to re-read my post or am I misunderstanding |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:04 AM Response to Reply #38 |
194. Thank you Treestar for pointing out on this "progressive' site that the poor are not always |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
55. Not to mention some statistics say more than half of pregnancies are unplanned |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #55 |
219. ours was certainly unplanned |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
27. Almost all solutions begin and end with Families, not government. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
28. After Traveling over Thanksgiving |
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SujiwanKenobee (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
29. Eeew |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I have a son, and had no problem changing diapers |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
35. Which is it, 2 or 3? When you start mandating people do something, you need |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. It would expand and in a way the repukes find perfectly OK |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
36. Reproductive freedom is a human right |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Unlimited irresponsible procreation is not a human right. Sorry. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. it isn't? who said so? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. Yes it is |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
67. Then why limit restrictions to those on welfare? |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
112. Mandatory abortions? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. The OP wants 'breeding restrictions' |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
136. I didn't say I would limit restrictions to those on welfare. |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:10 AM Response to Reply #67 |
199. Yes. Let's start with your balls. . . . . . Tomorrow. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #43 |
167. Is unlimited irresponsible consumption a human right? (nt) |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
196. Actually, it is. What else ya got? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
37. It's not necessary |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #37 |
50. More environmental problems come with greater prosperity though |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
39. We have an OPEN BORDER POLICY with a third world country. The idea is to GROW the underclass...nt |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
42. Poverty is not a genetic trait. |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. You must think money grows on trees. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
95. No, I think they print as much as they like. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
44. Corporate welfare programs are MORE expensive |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
46. Some kind of population control |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Bingo. |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Don't know that communuity service |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #46 |
84. no, not necessarily |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #84 |
107. There's some truth to that |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
150. When I was a lad |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
52. Hey Rex, would you be willing to get a license to have sex? |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Nope. My having sex doesn't affect other people very much. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. You better take that baby of yours back |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
53. upon what basis do you make your assertion that "welfare programs are expensive?" |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. All those cadillacs add up. nt. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
56. really, if over population is such an important issue for you |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Oooo, you're so clever |
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regularguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
57. DO you consider yourself one |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Do you know what a non sequitur is? |
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regularguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #60 |
72. And it doesn't follow that there are too many people |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
66. What a stupid post. Raising a child IS COMMUNITY SERVICE |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #66 |
80. Don't be stupid |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Wait until your belief collides with reality |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #66 |
88. Bravo - you took the words out of my mouth |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
68. Speaking of population management |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. what? that's for others. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Shhh, you. |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #68 |
79. I stopped at one child. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. You didn't answer my question |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
69. i think if you improve education, birthrate will fall. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #69 |
152. A woman with even 4 years of schooling experiences a drastic drop in expected birth rate |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
74. I believe you're proposing a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
75. Hmmmmm |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Who said anything about eugenics? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. "Selective breeding" |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
133. Maybe you should learn to read... |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
83. We already have a diminishing population in the United States. |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
85. Population problems are generally vastly overstated... |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
87. Wow, I wonder what Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry, or Haley Barbour would have |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
89. What do you believe the precise amount of people in the U.S. should be? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
90. Ah, more nanny state stuff....freedom is for the birds anymore it seems |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
92. How about you suck it up |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:14 AM Response to Reply #92 |
201. and educate the rich |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
94. how about forcing the third and and subsequent children |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
97. I have always wondered why the people least capable of having children, |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #97 |
121. Incredibly ignorant |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. I know about the benfits. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Still ignorant |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. In the rough and tumble world of pure survival, it may make sense. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
99. I think you should take your own advice and not breed. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
102. Everyone should be sterilized at birth |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Yeah but then who chooses who gets to breed? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. I'd be a great birthright decider |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #102 |
170. I'd hate to admit it because I'm all about freedom |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #102 |
174. Hilarious. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
104. Absolutely not... |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
114. Flamebait. Reported. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
115. That's a disgusting proposal in a supposedly free society. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
117. You're talking about people. Could you rephrase? |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #117 |
132. How about "family size limitations"? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
118. I think we should do it by natural resource usage, and then only by castration. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
126. Eugenics. Google it. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
128. racist classist bullshit |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. Racist? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. No, you didn't say it straight out |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #141 |
145. I absolutely DO NOT see capitalism as racist |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. You don't see any relationship between capitalism, |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #147 |
153. We can both play your silly game.. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 07:06 AM Response to Reply #153 |
160. Of course capitalism depends on exloiting people. |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
129. It reeks of facism |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #129 |
139. And then we'd need even MORE kids for THEIR social security |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #139 |
188. That's the way the system works |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
130. Hmm... It still doesn't say "This Thread Has Been Locked" above |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #130 |
140. Why should it? |
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tyedyeto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
135. How about teaching and practicing birth control methods that work? |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Of course I'm for teaching birth control |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. how about licensing something other than my uterus, dude. (nt) |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
137. How about free birth control |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
143. Quoting myself. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #143 |
149. No apologies. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
144. Spay and neuter your pets! (nt) |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
146. Did that ol' welfare queen with 12 kids go out & buy herself a Cadillac again? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
151. OMG.. I am late to the party.. I hope this is enough |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Thank you for the laugh! I needed that. |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Yes, I'm outnumbered |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #155 |
158. Well Rex, if you use terminology such as that, you've got to expect certain reactions to it. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #155 |
165. If you use Eugenics phrasing, expect to be called on it |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #155 |
166. Then don't make arguments that eugenicists and racists make |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
156. Of course you're going to get all sorts of crap for this thread |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
157. And for those who object to a particular word |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 05:19 AM Response to Reply #157 |
159. In common everyday usage, however, "to breed" refers to animals, not people... |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #159 |
168. "refers to animals, not people" |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #168 |
187. I'm talking about conversation & perception, not biology.Even population biologists wouldn't use... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #157 |
171. Hmmm. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
164. Animals breed -- good grief |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
169. Do you know which welfare program is the most expensive? |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #169 |
179. Correction |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #179 |
184. Actually... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #184 |
217. They still don't cost jack diddly squat |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
172. Well, first of all, stop buying into false information |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #172 |
180. No, it's not another form of eugenics. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #180 |
185. Sorry, but I have to call bullshit |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:11 AM Response to Reply #185 |
200. Again, you LIE |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:49 AM Response to Reply #200 |
213. I guess your short term memory is shot |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #172 |
181. I meant welfare in the same sense I presented in the previous sentence |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #181 |
186. I'm not sure what previous sentence you're referring to |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:09 AM Response to Reply #186 |
198. What in the world are you talking about? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:04 AM Response to Reply #198 |
214. Because you are being obnoxious and obtuse. |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
173. That idea is straight from the Aryan Nation and the KKK |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #173 |
175. Wait till a company owned by Arabs wants to buy something here and you will see well known DUers |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #173 |
182. No, it's NOT exactly what I'm talking about. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
176. I have a far better, far less fascistic idea, just reward people who decide not to have kids... |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #176 |
183. I like that alternative, too. |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
177. I agree. Breeding restrictions is an important issue needed to be addressed worldwide nt |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
178. You do know what that post looks like don't you? |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #178 |
190. Very much to the point. Take a bow. |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #190 |
216. Thank ya. Funny the OP didn't answer. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
189. I don't need a license to pee, eat, or breathe. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:49 AM Response to Reply #189 |
191. I keep thinking about this discussion. Can you imagine the reprecussions? |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #189 |
197. In case you haven't noticed, the cause of children |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:21 AM Response to Reply #189 |
215. I blame the governments (that is the oligarchs and the corporations) who are not interested in |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
192. Uh, YES, you are. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
193. Instead of cutting welfare for the poor |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #193 |
195. I didn't say the poor should not be allowed to have children |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:36 AM Response to Reply #195 |
204. Well |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #204 |
206. I'm not implying any such thing. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:47 AM Response to Reply #206 |
208. Well |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
202. We don't need a nanny society... US fertility rates are just fine, thanks |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #202 |
203. Careful... you'll be called a eugenicist before long. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #203 |
207. The corporations and rich people |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:44 AM Response to Reply #202 |
205. Does this include the EMOTIONAL means? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:22 AM Response to Original message |
209. What part of government out of the bedroom don't you understand? |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
210. Jail for parents who break the law? |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
218. Pro-choice means choosing EITHER option /nt |
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