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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:51 AM
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NYT Editorial: "American troops are just holding down the lid on a pressure cooker."
Editorial

Still No Way Out

Published: November 30, 2007

There has been so much horrible news out of Iraq for so long that it is natural to want to celebrate better news. Sending another 30,000 American troops into Iraq has made life better: attacks are down, as are the number of American and Iraqi casualties. Some refugees are even venturing home. The news has cheered Americans and dampened Democrats’ enthusiasm for keeping up the pressure on Iraq policy. Unfortunately, it is just as important to look at what has not happened since President Bush announced his surge: Iraq’s leaders are no closer to making the political deals that are the only hope for building a self-sustaining peace.

Without a serious effort at national conciliation, American troops are just holding down the lid on a pressure cooker. Iraq’s rival militias, the insurgents, the bitter sectarian resentments and the meddling neighbors haven’t gone anywhere. Consider this all too familiar horror: yesterday, police said they pulled six bodies from the Tigris River about 25 miles south of Baghdad. They were handcuffed and showed signs of having been tortured. And five, including a child, had been beheaded.

Perhaps 160,000 American troops could hold down the overall casualty numbers indefinitely, but they cannot wipe away that sort of hatred. That’s the job of Iraq’s leaders. Either way, the American military doesn’t have enough troops for such an occupation without end, and the American Treasury can’t keep spending $10 billion a month to maintain it.

Mr. Bush’s escalation was sold as a way to buy Iraqi politicians breathing room to finally address the problems driving the sectarian violence: by agreeing on an equitable division of oil wealth, rules for provincial elections and ways to bring more Sunnis and former Baath Party members into the Shiite-dominated government.

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Keep spinning that the "surge" worked, when this is only a dangerous lull!

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“Once Anbar is settled, we must take control of Baghdad, and we will.” There would have to be a lot more fighting before the capital was taken back from the Shiites, he said. “The Anbaris will take charge of the purge. What the whole world failed to do in Anbar, we have done overnight. Baghdad will be a lot easier.”


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:05 AM
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1. The surge is over beginning in April, according to military officials--
that's when the first troops to go in last winter are going to start coming out after their 12 or 15-month rotations, and there is no one to replace them. Sooner or later, ChimpCo is going to have to face reality and stop relying on our military as the solution to every problem over there. Time to start the process of leaving.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:07 AM
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2. and yes back home we are sitting on a pressure cooker too.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:10 AM
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3. The Army Times reported the cost of this adventure is
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