Remember when Obama came out of nowhere (unless you're Illanoyed) and was featured speaker at '04

Wiley50

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:09 AM
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Remember when Obama came out of nowhere (unless you're Illanoyed) and was featured speaker at '04

convention?

I had the feeling then that I was being sold

someone being groomed by the party elite

So, only 3 years of his first term in national office....

I know when I am being manipulated.

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TwilightGardener

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:10 AM
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1. I'm being inspired. I'm watching a President being made tonight.

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thunder rising

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:12 AM
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4. Yeah, me too n/t

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Avalux

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:11 AM
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2. Or maybe he's just that good. His speech moved me; made me tear up.

That doesn't happen to me very often, and it doesn't come from 'being groomed'. Sorry, I don't see it that way.

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Wiley50

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:14 AM
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6. Forgive me, I don't own a TV

I'll have to catch the u-tube or transcript tomorrow.

But, I didn't se Edwards speech either

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Avalux

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:23 AM
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13. His speech is up in the video forum - link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x80754

Enjoy! :hi:

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BeHereNow

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:12 AM
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3. Well, there IS this to add to the equation...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2584691
BHN:scared:

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EFerrari

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Fri Jan-04-08 01:46 AM
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19. If you read the whole transcript, all the front runners have

scary "advisors". It's like they have to in order to join the club. That's where we are right now.

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BeHereNow

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Fri Jan-04-08 02:21 AM
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21. Dismal, aint it?

The fucking PTB are always in the wings.
BHN

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BeHereNow

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:13 AM
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5. And this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2578034
BHN

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onehandle

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:15 AM
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7. You mean like a politician? Which he is.

He did great that night. He has the greatest presence of the top three.

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davsand

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:18 AM
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8. Nope. He spoke the same way before he EVER hit the national scene.

I watched him blow the doors off a local Dem party dinner the first time I ever laid eyes on him. I'm telling you, in all the years I've been doing this, I have NEVER seen anybody like him when it comes to a stump speech. Obama had ordinarily stoic Labor people standing and cheering, and literally, I saw a room of people that were just about willing to march to the gates of hell for a candidate.

I love Durbin, and until I saw Obama in action I thought Durbin was the best I'd ever seen at working a room and moving an audience. One outing with Obama and I was blown completely away.

Love him or hate him, politically, he is a gifted speaker.

Laura

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avaistheone1

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:20 AM
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9. Too bad his walk doesn't match his talk.

Obama is not a progressive and barely a Democrat imo

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madrchsod

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:22 AM
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11. ok..... i take it you do`t live in illinois

so you do not have a clue about his work her in the state and his mentors he had and has from this state...

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davsand

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:23 AM
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12. Irrespective of YOUR opinion he still won Iowa.

I guess DEMOCRATS in Iowa like him fine.

Have a nice day.

Laura

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Strelnikov_

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Fri Jan-04-08 02:56 AM
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24. Obama "barely a Democrat"?

Wow.

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book_worm

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:21 AM
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10. Oh Good God! That is what a "Keynote speaker" usually is--an up and coming party leader

Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 12:23 AM by book_worm

tell me what did you think when John Edwards ran for president in 2004? did you know he was only in his first term in the Senate then? and that actually Obama has more elective experience than Edwards.

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Chovexani

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Fri Jan-04-08 02:50 AM
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23. Shhhhh

Don't try bringing up your "facts" and "logic", here, buddy! :P

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madrchsod

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Fri Jan-04-08 12:27 AM
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14. well i guess he fooled one of the greatest democratic senators

from illinois--paul simon. simon saw something in barrack that was something special.

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bigwillq

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Fri Jan-04-08 01:21 AM
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15. Obama's speech at the convention was amazing

he's done nothing for me since.

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begin_within

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Fri Jan-04-08 01:31 AM
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16. Yes, they really spotlighted him in 2004 as the "future star"

Almost kind of overshadowed Kerry for a minute there.

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Imagevision

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Fri Jan-04-08 01:41 AM
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17. Obama's speech was stron, I mean I wish the guy could start in say...April?

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sandnsea

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Fri Jan-04-08 01:45 AM
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18. Remember when Edwards came out of nowhere and saved Bill's ass during the impeachment

I had the feeling that I was being sold someone being groomed by the party elite.

So, only one term in national office...

I know what I am being manipulated.

Do you have any idea how nuts you sound?

He's running against the former VP candidate and the Clinton machine. Why would he do that unless he wanted to CHANGE THE PARTY ELITE.

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Strelnikov_

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Fri Jan-04-08 02:58 AM
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25. Place gets sillier every day n/t

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stickernation

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Fri Jan-04-08 07:23 AM
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26. so does karl rove !

here's rove's advice to obama:

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/12/03/roves-obama-memo/

now discovering THAT shocked the shit out of me just now :P

not going to interpret it, just thought it'd make a keen FYI.

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Lydia Leftcoast

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Fri Jan-04-08 02:18 AM
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20. I recall the 1988 convention, when the whole MSM was buzzing about

"the dynamic young governor of Arkansas" who was going to make a speech.

It was a mediocre speech, and you could sense the disappointment among the commentators.

There seems to be a memorable speech at many conventions: Teddy Kennedy in 1984, Mario Cuomo in 1988, for example, but neither of them got the nomination.

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Chovexani

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Fri Jan-04-08 02:49 AM
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22. I remember watching it and thinking I was looking at the first black president

There was a lot of similar talk on DU that night.

I was really proud of him.

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