What would you do if your kid's school banned evolution & went creationist?

Would you take your kid out of that school? Or would you be happier if both were taught? Should evolution and creationism both be considered theories? Or is one a theory and the other religious dogma?

Will America inherit the wind again? Will a president huckabuck usher in a new era of monkey trials?

Can you imagine such a scenario in America?

so it wouldn't be too difficult.

It's hypothetical of course, since I don't have any children. But if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't want them learning a bunch of religious crap disguised as science.

It would be the same as if they wanted to teach kids how to be slaves.

but I would be scraping up the money for private, non-religious school or practice home schooling. Being an ex-teacher with a couple of college degrees, I'm pretty confident I'm qualified.

Our school system has the parents in their faces continously. We are obsessive about getting our kids ready for college, and to stop teaching evolution would be the first step toward total failure.

Ain't happening.

How many decades we've had to listen to them whine about God taken out of our schools and the awful consequences.

is "none."

Mind you, I am a regular churchgoer, but the last thing I want to do is to overturn the damn Establishment clause.

Even though it's a red town, people here take pride in the fact that people have pulled their kids out of expensive Connecticut prep schools (like Avon Old Farms, Kingswood-Oxford and Miss Porter's - where Jackie Bouvier went back in the day) and placed them back in the town's public school system.

That said, if it did happen in this town, I'd move to one of the neighboring towns, or else transfer my daughter to Miss Porter's or a similar private school.

That would create a different problem, but not one that couldn't be overcome.

Indiana is NOT like other Midwestern states in the quality or nature of its school system. Most of the schools are god awful, being more like the Deep South than the Midwest. As such, our community is a complete oddity.

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(eeek!...j/k....please don't kill me!)

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fantasy taught in school. The fact that there has been and still exists a debate about our origins with a perspective called "creationism" is just completely immature and ludicrous.

have a bigger turnout than the republicans.

I'd raise hell. There isn't a corner of this country, red state or blue state, that should tolerate such pig-ignorance.

and get that child out of there, out of harms way. And thats for sure

without a second thought. I'm getting weary of the political battleground the classroom has become...

it probably wouldn't bother me that much.

I was taught the Biblical version in church and the scientific version in school, and the scientific version is far more persuasive, at least to me.

Think about it though. How convincing is a teacher who is trained and believes in evolution actually going to be when discussing creationism as science? If I was a teacher, I could certainly do it, but I'd certainly treat it with the 'respect' it deserves. Even if I really tried to present it in an unbiased fashion, I'm sure my own feelings towards it would be readily apparent. And what happens when they hear creationist theory saying that the earth is 6000 years old, but physics and geology and evolution all say it's way older? Will they get to question how Able was able to reproduce without committing incest? Or how Noah managed to actually collect 2 of every single land mammal on earth onto a rickity wooden boat, along with sufficient food and water for 40 days, in just a few months time? How long would it take someone nowadays to collect even 100 species, built a boat sufficient to hold them, and prepare them to survive 40 days on the ocean? It's utterly preposterous to think someone in ancient times could collect panda's from China, koala's from Australia, buffalo from the US, elephants, lions, and hippos from Africa, a different species of elephant from India, etc. And if even one biblical story like that is unbelievable, the entire bible is thrown into question, because proponents insist it is all literally true.

On the slim chance that you would come across a teacher that actually poo-poos evolution, give your kids the facts as you see them. Give them a book on evolution and/or one debunking creationism. Encourage him/her to debate the teacher.

The public schools are for everyone, regardless of race, sex, or religious belief. Pulling your kid out is like surrendering to the religious nuts.

church school...when I pick her up she says..."Poppa, the teacher lied again today"...:rofl:
Next year she attends public school, cant wait.

I'd sue the school district, and I would get the best legal help I and other similarly minded people could.

I almost faced a similar situation with birth control. They went fairly "abstinence only" here, I am a former substitute teacher, I was going to see what needed to be done to hold a Birth Control Options for Teens seminar at the local Community Center. I was going to contact Planned Parenthood for pamphlets/props, etc. It ended up being unneccesary.

So, if that happened, I would do the same for evolution - in fact, there are probably a few great biologists at the local Universitys that would be willing to help out with something like that.

I try not to be all knee-jerk, and more fill in where the problem leaves a big hole.

but, I would fight like hell to have creationism banned from a science classroom. Creationism should be taught along side other myths such as Roman and Greek ones, for example. It should NOT be treated as if it's science because it's NOT science.

Also, I would make sure my kid knows and understands the difference between creationism and evolution.

Would you take your kid out of that school? Public school? Yes, and probably move out of the country.

Or would you be happier if both were taught? Evolution is science. Creationism is religion and doesn't belong in public school.

Should evolution and creationism both be considered theories? Specify - scientific theories? Hell no. Only evolution is a scientific theory.

Or is one a theory and the other religious dogma? Creationism is religious dogma. Not one shred of proof to back it up, requires blind belief and lack of thought.

Will America inherit the wind again? Did we ever have the wind?

Will a president huckabuck usher in a new era of monkey trials? Yes, if Americans sit back and allow the dumbasses to rule once again.

Can you imagine such a scenario in America? Yes (which scares the hell out of me).

But I would raise a child on books, and encourage him/her to think. It would put me in an awkward position, having to tell a kid to behave and show respect that is in no way being earned--while I'm on the sidelines showing the complete opposite of respect.

Dead simple.

Because such a thing is clearly illegal, with plenty of precedent.

if I had a kid in that situation, I would get a book of world religions and myths and show her/him that myth is myth, no matter which religious version.

Now, the next question is: how many turtles are under that elephant?;-)

Should evolution and creationism both be considered theories?

Which creationism theory? There isn't just one. To date no creationist style myth has been able to generate a viable scientific theory. However prime mover creationism remain popular simply because it lies on the edge of scientifically verifiability.