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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:58 AM
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"It's the War," Says Iowa to Hillary -- And a "Happy Blue Year" To All! - Michael Moore
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Friends,

There was no doubt about it. The message from Iowa tonight was simple, but deafening:

If you're a candidate for President, and you voted for the war, you lose. And if you voted and voted and voted for the war -- and never once showed any remorse -- you really lose.

In short, if you had something to do with keeping us in this war for four-plus years, you are not allowed to be the next president of the United States.

Over 70% of Iowan Democrats voted for candidates who either never voted for the invasion of Iraq (Obama, Richardson, Kucinich) or who have since admitted their mistake (Edwards, Biden, Dodd). I can't tell you how bad I feel for Senator Clinton tonight. I don't believe she was ever really for this war. But she did -- and continued to do -- what she thought was the politically expedient thing to eventually get elected. And she was wrong. And tonight she must go to sleep wondering what would have happened if she had voted her conscience instead of her calculator.

John Edwards was supposed to have come in third. He had been written off. He was outspent by the other front-runners six to one. But somewhere along the road he threw off the old politico hack jacket and turned into a real person, a fighter for the poor, for the uninsured, for peace. And for that, he came in a surprise second, ending up with just one less delegate than the man who was against the war from the beginning. But, as Joshua Holland of AlterNet pointed out earlier today, Edwards is still the only front-runner who will pull out all the troops and do it as quickly as possible. His speech tonight was brilliant and moving.

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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:17 PM
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1. kick
Big ole anti-war kick.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:22 PM
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2. WHY does everyone think Clinton has these secret beliefs?
People are always guessing that secretly she believes this or that, but she just can't say so because it would hurt her electability. But I don't see any basis for this. What leads anyone to think she believes other than the way she votes? Where is the evidence? And why is it a good thing? "Oh, she doesn't really believe what she's saying - in her heart she's anti-war and progressive just like me." This really has me stumped.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:22 PM
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3. I think Hillary's war vote hurt her, but, more than that, it was her phoniness about the whole thing
Last night in her speech she said something about "war should be a last result" and I screamed at the TV "Then why the FUCK did you vote for it when you KNEW Bushco was just slobbering for war!" She also mentioned the troops -- who she had HELPED to put in harm's way. And then there's the way she never owned up to her decision to go for political expediency by supporting the IWR and enabling Bushco. (HAH! how ironic! that bit her in the ass, didn't it?), the way she talks about it out of both sides of her mouth, her arrogant attitude (just shut up and support me), her let-me-review-the-focus-group-tapes style of speaking, etc. ---- all of it, all of it adds up to a big turn-off for voters.
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