Folks may want to seriously examine their choice of Candidate and ‘Why’ that is there Candidate

The fact that Obama is bi-racial and that HRC is a woman tells me absolutely nothing about their character, their dignity, or ‘how well’ they will be under pressure. These attributes are important, but to me, in the over all scheme of things, very superficial at best.

After all, the next president probably will determine the fate of this country, and maybe even the fate of humanity as we know it. If you except that premise, it will not matter whether the person is black, green, blue, or a woman. What will be important is the wisdom and heart that the person brings to the presidency.

As far as Obama goes, he gave a great speech at the last Democratic National Convention. He is part black and wasn’t raised here in America and knows little of the African American experience. He has voted for some things that I would consider pro-corporate (bankruptsy law) that hurts those of us with low incomes. He likes Lieberman and want’s to play nice with the Republicans. He says he was against the Iraq War. Lot’s of folks thinks he has charisma. That’s all I really know about him.

I won’t even get into HRC.

Now as far as Edwards goes, he smiles too much and some folk’s think that is phony. I see him in a different light though. I believe that smile is real and it tells me that he has a very good nature. It tells me that he truly gives a damn and that his motives are pure. That smile tells me that he has a love for humanity and will keep faith with that love. That smile tells me that hidden within him is a spring of wisdom that we desperately need right now. After all folks, you can’t give away something that you don’t already have inside, and Edwards has it.

I think that Obama and HRC will get lots of positive press because of their attributes, rather than anything of substance. I think that the media’s power is huge and will, and has already, weighted heavily in their favor. Not fair, but it is what it is.

These are just my feelings and my humble opinion. I in no way claim they are the ultimate truth so there is no need to flame me, but do so anyway if that gets you to the light.

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When did you last take geography? Because Hawaii's been an American state fro some time now.

I'm so sick of these posts. Can we (democrats) be thankful for once for something? We had a great night last night, and whether your candidate won or lost, show some respect and support for the winner of the night. Sure there are many more nights to come, but why do we have to implode over one night?

I don't think so, I think the Media has alot to do with it, we all know how we are being played by them, and my opinion of them it's sickening, they are calling a winner in the most important position in the country and it's only January, and we did not even vote yet. What a bunch of thugs.:mad:

It's true I'm an obama supporter, but what annoyed me about the media last night, was how they just completely overlooked Edwards success. He was outspent what? 6:1. He also defeated the "machine" that is HRC. I think there should have been more emphasis on his success.

was the fact that the media did not discuss one single issue all night. It was all social talk...who had better hair, who went out and gladhanded more, and who spent more money. There was absolutely no information given throughout the coverage that actually informed the voters of any of the candidates' positions.

Just keeping America dumb and voting like an election for class president, not a real political election.

Please.

Which is why I take issue with your thread.

and other emotional responses.

And I have seen that even YELLING for a rational, reasoned response is met with more of the same argumentative garbage. Debate is rare.

And I agree that tho Hawaii is a state, the experience of people who live there is far different than that of mainlanders. Thus, your statement that BO was not raised in the states is, while technically incorrect, probably more true in the substantive sense.

Good luck with seeking rational discussion.

Those kooky Hawaiian furriners.

for liking their candidate based on flimsy reasons then turn around and they prefer Edwards because of his smile. At least not if they truly want rational discussion. The OP has every right to prefer Edwards, and even has the right to like him because of his smile. But that's hardly a rational discussion of the reasons to support him. Seems more like a pot/kettle situation to me.

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would be for me, ti's not there. That was the point I was trying to make.

exposed to other cultures.

Being diverse is a wonderful thing.

My wife's incredulous comment when listening to Edwards' speech last night. He can't square populism with the choices he's made, people will just see him as a fraud.

full of slobbering over Edwards' smile and nothing of subtance. Not to mention a paucity of facts.

Here's some facts for you: Unlike JE, Obama walked the walk and made sacrifices to do it. He went to work as a community organizer in one of the poorest neighborhoods in this country. He then went to law school, graduated magna cum laude and returned to Chicago to advocate for the underserved. He lectured on Constitutional law for 10 years.

Those are facts.

and, as you said, it's just your opinion. However, you spent the first half of your post talking about how little you know about Obama and how people shouldn't support him just because he's biracial and charismatic. Then you went on to say that you feel good about Edwards because of his smile. Huh? You seem to have read a lot into Edwards based on his smile, which is just as odd as liking Obama because he's black or Clinton because she's a woman.

People support their candidates for a number of reasons. But don't fault others for supporting their candidates based on unsubstantial reasons and then turn around and say you like Edwards' smile. That makes no sense.

And for the record, none of the top three candidates are my first choice, but so far Obama and Edwards are pretty even in my eyes.