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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:36 PM
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Elections and shit

I wrote this about the 2000 election cycle but the points are still salient enough when applied to THIS election.


One can look at the voting record of any politician and get disgusted, but a political voting record in reality tells us very little about a politician's true character. Often bills have bullshit added onto them that has nothing to do with the original intention and title of the bill. This obfuscation is called a "rider", and it is routine.

Everything Congress votes on consists reams and reams of riders, attached to dry, brain-numbing legalese designed for maximum manipulation power. Most proposals are never even READ by most Congresspeople, because of the sheer inhuman volumes of paper. So it's inevitable that bills are passed that were never read, just blithely voted into law -- laws, un-read by lawmakers, and no-one voting has any idea what these bills SAY. It's worse than signing up to get a cell phone and not reading the fine print. They didn't even read the plan!

http://www.unknownnews.net/040810a-upits.html

Know when you are being lied to..

By spreading the manure real thick "they" create the necessary uncertainty in enough peoples' minds to prevent mass action that would destabilize their next scams.

http://www.unknownnews.org/080105-sd02-Zebra.html
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:48 PM
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1. Besides the "riders"....
Are the tactics that democrats and republicans use to pass bills that they know will piss off their base supporters and constituents. Usually it's the new first term senators and congressmen who are told by their party "vote for this bill or else". They have to go through the same rites of passages as their seniors did when they were new to Washington. You vote the way the party tells you to your first term and come re-election time you'll get lots of money and lots of support from the party. If not, enjoy your first and last term. Not always the case such as with Hillary Clinton. She already had power, respect and clout in Washington but say you get a new and unheard of congressman or senator, ten years later when he/she is running for office you'll hear their opponents say, "you voted for this republican bill and that republican bill, yadda, yadda...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:50 PM
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2. Here's something that really...
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 03:53 PM by stillcool47
cracks me up. I have nothing against the Senator in question..I'm sure he's just doing the job he was elected to do...I just wonder what the job is?

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/R?d107:FLD004:@OD1(sen+nelson,+e.+benjamin):
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:00 PM
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3. link doesn't work...so here's a taste...
S.CON.RES.136 : A concurrent resolution requesting the President to issue a proclamation in observance of the 100th Anniversary of the founding of the International Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies.

S.CON.RES.143 : A concurrent resolution designating October 6, 2002, through October 12, 2002, as "National 4-H Youth Development Program Week".

S.CON.RES.148 : A concurrent resolution recognizing the significance of bread in American history, culture, and daily diet.

S.RES.68 : A resolution designating September 6, 2001 as "National Crazy Horse Day"

S.RES.160 : A resolution designating the month of October 2001, as "Family History Month".

S.RES.258 : A resolution urging Saudi Arabia to dissolve its "martyrs" fund and to refuse to support terrorism in any way.

S.RES.283 : A resolution recognizing the successful completion of democratic elections in the Republic of Colombia.

S.RES.292 : A resolution expressing support for the Pledge of Allegiance.




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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:32 PM
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4. I've heard those on NPR
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 04:33 PM by DaveTheWave
Everything from Halloween resolutions to official state pies.

Glad to see they're really earning our tax dollars that way instead of seriously working on stupid stuff like health care, social security, keeping American jobs at home, ending the war, etc. :sarcasm:
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