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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:32 PM
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What is Obama's healthcare plan? (and a Huckabee question)
How different is it from Edwards?

Also, I heard mention today how the powers that be in the right wing truly despite Huckabee. What is that about?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:38 PM
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1. Healthcare plan here:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:07 PM
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8. The drawbacks to the plan are these:
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 05:09 PM by truedelphi
1) The government's idea of affordable and the middle income person's idea of affordable are currently vastly separate notions.

In my purview, the government should not be able to get a penny of income tax from anyone who can't get health insurance. Ditto Social Security
taxes.

So to make Obama's plan fair, we would have to re-vamp the tax code - never an easy thing to do.

So now we have two major struggles against the powers that be: under Obama, we need to re-vamp the health "insurance" situation and also the income tax situation.

2) It sounds like Obama is going to0 say that for the time being, we must continue to throw these insurers a bone or two,

Currently in CA a similar plan is coming into existence - and it states that the insurance companies can have up to 20% of the monies that are colelcted.

We don't need them. These people have killed our family members, denied paymetns that should have been paid, and caused the health of countless Americans to be destroyed.

I want this idea of needing to pay the insurers ended now.

3) It sounds like we need to create a whole agency that will hand out these subsidies. So in addition to the monies wasted on non-essential insurance compabnies, we now have an agency that hands out subsidies.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:38 PM
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2. Depends on your definition of "right wing."
Christian conservatives love him. Libertarians and corporate greedheads (who side with the GOP over fiscal issues but tend to be somewhat more socially liberal) can't stand him.


As for health care plans.
Here's Obama's
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/


Here's Edwards'
http://www.johnedwards.com/issues/health-care/


They're actually remarkably similar.
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jemsan Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:40 PM
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3. Yeah they are and Edwards had his first!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:49 PM
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7. Yeah, but that's not really fair.
It's easy to roll out your healthcare plan when it's more or less the same one you rolled out four years ago. ;)


That's just one of the many reasons why John Edwards' 2004 presidential run has been a distinct advantage this time around.

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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:41 PM
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4. Specifically, they're all apoplectic about his immigration stand
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:43 PM
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5. I lot of the ones I cited (libertarians, greedheads) also have problems with Big Brother.
But, yeah, libertarians generally are virulently anti-immigration reform. Ron Paul voted for building the border wall, for example.

But I don't think the greedy, corporate CEO type is against illegal immigrants coming here. Cheap labor, after all.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:47 PM
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6. they are very close
it`s just what comes out of committees and how they nuance the message so the public thinks they are going to get a really good deal.i will say this for hillary, she`s up front, when one reads her program one knows they are going to get nothing
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