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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:44 AM
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"I will see them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."
I just saw Dennis Kucinich say this on CSPAN. He said that of he is elected president, he will prosecute Bushler and Cheney to the fullest extent of the law for their numerous crimes. Bravo!!! Now THAT'S courage! :patriot:

Before we give into the pressures from the M$M and party bigwigs who have told us which are the viable, 1st tier candidates, look again at Dennis Kucinich's platform and ask yourself if these are the things YOU want to happen for America:
http://www.dennis4president.com/go/issues

Votes by Dennis Kucinich | Congress votes database | washingtonpost.com:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/k000336/votes

Do you think FDR's WPA was good for America? Look at Dennis Kucinich's "Works Green Administration" (WGA) and his ideas on sustainable living:
http://www.dennis4president.com/go/issues/a-sustainable-future

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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:49 AM
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1. He really is an FDR figure.
Courage, principle, vision, intelligence - he has it all.

I wish he could win. But DU is not America. America is not ready.

As a person who has written a considerable amount of material dealing with the future, the nature of progress, and related subjects, I feel quite confident in saying that Dennis Kucinich is truly a man ahead of his time.
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RuleOfNah Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:35 AM
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2. Say it again!
Full extent! Not some extent. Not an extent. Not no extent at all. Full extent!

:think: :bounce:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:26 AM
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3. Clinton and Obama have told us that the Repubs are off the hook
Edwards might very well go after them, but only Kucinich has promised to do so.
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:34 AM
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4. Which is why Edwards is my second choice, after Kucinich.



I firmly believe that nothing is more important than making sure this never happens again. Nothing.

Because there won't be a USA to worry about for long if we don't - or at least not a recognizable one.

This has to be our first priority. A family can't survive for long in a house full of disease.







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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:21 AM
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63. I doubt it.
Because then he'd have to "go after" himself since he was complicit in voting for nearly every evil thing they proposed.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:01 AM
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5. Anything Less And The Republic Is Over!
.
It is simple. Breaking the law is a crime. Allowing a law breaker to get away with breaking the law, makes the law void.

The people of the current administration are desperate to get the incoming administration to give them a mulligan, a "do over", a get out of jail card.

NO WAY! It is terrifying to see people actually suggesting that it is the nation's interest to 'let it go.' (see : The National Interest And 2008 by Gary Hart -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-hart/th...)

It is in the people's interest to hold government officials accountable for their acts and actions. Is USA a land of laws? Then enforce the law equally for all.
.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:50 AM
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28. Too late.
The proof is 9/11. We let them get away with that and it will be the undoing of us all.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:05 AM
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6. Bush, Cheney et al. will never be prosecuted. They will never be held accountable.
And if HRC or Obama become president, a great deal of Bush's measures and policies will remain intact for the new president to profit from.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:07 AM
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7. You May Be Right. But That Does Not Mean The People Stop Trying
.
to bring them to justice.
.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:52 AM
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8. i don't understand you swamp rat
yesterday you post this horrible picture of dennis portrayed as an elf and his wife as some sort of fairy princess. Basically just making them into a joke and then you post a positive post about him.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:48 PM
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17. Swampy has ALWAYS been a Kucinich supporter, as have I. I thought the picture was delightful.
I saw it as sweet and cute and funny because I already know where Swampy's heart is truly at.

sw
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:23 PM
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20. oh
i thought it meant to undermine kucinich and make him into the joke that the media is trying so desperatly to. I also did not find the translation of elizabeth very flattering either, but maybe i missed the context completly.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:35 PM
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23. I understand. I guess for me it was just a bit of comic relief - I'll always love Dennis, but that
doesn't mean I can't appreciate a humorous little tweak about him.

Of course, my already knowing where Swamp Rat is coming from made a big difference in how I looked at it.

sw
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:29 PM
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27. Yep, since day #1, and my support has never waned.
Dennis speaks for me like no other candidate. Edwards is a distant second.

I do not know to whom you responded, but apparently it concerned my latest pic. Not only do I believe Elizabeth and Dennis would like my caricature of them, I am sure they would understand I am primarily poking fun at those who have criticized their relationship (and his height). I suppose a lot of folks do not realize that my pix are often directed at the supporters as well as antagonizers of the subjects in them, as well as myself and my own (mis)understanding of the noise going on around me.

Thanks for your kind comment scarletwoman. :hug: You do know me. ;)

I think Dennis looks cute as a button in my pic, and Elizabeth is a beautiful elf goddess who should be First Lady. :)
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:07 AM
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30. I loved the pic! And I do believe that Dennis and Elizabeth would like it, too.
I could tell that the person to whom I was responding didn't "get" your Kucinich pic, so I wanted to explain where you were coming from.

You are one of the dearest people on DU, with a heart of pure gold. And it's a very lovely picture.

:loveya: :hug:
sw
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:54 AM
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9. Not a chance in hell with the "unity" government of Obama
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:56 AM
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10. Dennis is a good man
Pity he has been treated so unfairly
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:59 AM
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11. Going after these traitors, warmongers, mass-murderers, thieves and thugs could employ thousands...
...of new Federal prosecutors.
Throwing all the guilty in the pen also might require additional tens of thousands of new guards to watch them all.
Lots of new jobs going after them in the Bush Crimes Prosecution Administration.

This is no make-work federal program, either. These are traitors who endanger our Constitution, republic and democracy.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:46 PM
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13. BCPA
Bush Crimes Prosecution Administration - I like it!

RICO is our friend.

:hi:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:07 AM
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12. He can say whatever he wants because he won't be held accountable for it as President.

because he has no chance of becoming President.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:19 PM
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14. If what you say is true
Then America has no chance of becoming a Democracy once again.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:08 AM
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44. That's a pledge I would like to see him fail at, though.
Nice little Catch-22 there. Because he's not popular, we are free to hint that he's a liar.

Nice.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:00 AM
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45. You must be projecting your own fears about DK. because I don't think he is lying.

My point is that he won't have to worry about actually carrying out his promise like someone who has a chance of winning does.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:04 AM
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46. Post #12 implies that he's a liar.
Nice.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:33 PM
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15. That's what I would expect from each democratic candidate
Kucinich is who I've supported from the get go.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:42 PM
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16. No wonder ABC cut him out of the debate. That's not "pc". nt
:sarcasm:

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:49 PM
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18. k&r -- thanks, Swampy! (nt)
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:04 PM
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19. Thats what we want to hear
:woohoo: Dennis
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:49 PM
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21. I wish Edwards or Obama would say that ... drat.
I love Dennis and will probably vote for him ... reluctant 2nd choice = Edwards.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:28 AM
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42. Hell, I'd be happy if any of the 3 would just say we'll investigate.
After all, it takes a Clinton to sweep the bushit under the rug.

-Hoot
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:57 PM
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22. k&r for justice and those whom still believe in justice
--and the resuscitation of Constitutional government in the US.

:kick:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:38 PM
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24. That in itself should be enough to put him in the WH. n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:42 PM
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25. KICK....because much as many might hope.. Many are not giving up on Kucinich for TRUTH!
He's had some bumps...but FGS his brother was found face down dead...and that takes a time to recover. His throwing votes to OBAMA was offputting to many of us and his explanation didn't seem to satisfy our questions...but just remember...DENNIS is a PURIST on "Peace and not WAR" and Obama is the ONLY CANDIDATE who said he was "AGAINST IRAQ INVASION" before he got into the SENATE. It might just be that Dennis threw votes his way on PRINCIPLE!

But...he his brother with mental problems died face down...that's gotta be something that would trow someone off their campaign. The brother who died was interviewd in an article featuring Dennis's Campaign recently...so I gotta figure Dennis was very close with him even though the brother was mentally ill.

His Campaign is still going...just got a call from a very sincere Dennis supporter yesterday asking if I would donate a little more and commit to work for him in the Primary.

I know some of us Kooch supporters are worried...but we still have some time to see how he does...while the "Road Show" continues.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:11 PM
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26. K&R. DK's courage is genuine too -- he means what he says. nt.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:57 AM
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29. I remember when he called those Blackwater execs "accessories to murder"...
MOST OF ALL HE INTRODUCED THE IMPEACHMENT OF RICHARD B. CHENEY WHICH IS NOW WITH THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:08 AM
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31. HR 333:
http://kucinich.house.gov/SpotlightIssues/documents.htm

Wiki Summary of US House Resolution 333

The resolution charges that Vice President Cheney:

1. has purposely manipulated the intelligence process to deceive the citizens and Congress of the United States by fabricating a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, as well as
2. fabricating a threat about an alleged relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, in order to justify the use of the U.S. Armed Forces against Iraq in a manner damaging to U.S. national security interests; and
3. in violation of his constitutional oath and duty, has openly threatened aggression against Iran absent any real threat to the United States, and has done so with the proven U.S. capability to carry out such threats, thus undermining U.S. national security.

The resolution was authored and submitted by Congressman Dennis Kucinich, a representative of Ohio who is also a presidential candidate in the 2008 election. Congressman Kucinich has made available more than 45 documents supporting the articles of impeachment at his Congressional website, including at least 15 for each article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_House_Resolution_333
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:08 AM
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32. Was never a supporter but -DK has more guts and integrity than the top 3 combined!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:13 AM
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34. Hey Didereaux
What do you think of his platform? Maybe you would consider supporting him. After all, he ain't no "democratic jellyfish." ;)

GEAUX KUCINICH!!!
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:24 AM
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37. True enough, the mans a definite vertebrate...Biden was my man so I am sitting for a spell. Ilike...
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 03:29 AM by Didereaux
80% or more of Kucinichs' platform and hope to hell they all get included at the Dem conv. I'm watching really close to see if Obama will fucking lose that bighead he has building up at the moment, if he continues with the pandering, the lack of platform and the suthrin preacher routine he is deadmeat come the general. Clinton had it to lose, and I think she is proving to be a true Democrat and will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as the old chestnut goes. Edwards I do not think has the legs to go the distance.

One hope remains for Biden, and Kucinich, a hung jury delagate wise come convention time, although I would bet a bag of pretty pennies you would see a famiar Nobel prize winner show up at the door it that happened.

Fearless Clueless Prediction: If Obama gets the nod you will see a third party emerge funded by Bloomberg and filled with a lot of old familiar faces with good heads on their shoulders, not necessarily ideas and plans that most of us might like. Their target would be dead centered on the religious right and particularly on the Neo-CONS. Few seem to understand that mainstream big business thrives in a status quo stable environment and the Neo-CON Bankers, and the Hallibutons, together with several big old time defense corps only make theirs in time of war and turmoil. thats a little story you don't see referred to very often in the business rags, but you hear it and see it around the citadels.

I don't know what they will do if McCain and or Edwards were to appear, I suspect that they would go ahead in Edwards case simply because he would be eaten alive by the Neo-CONS still in Congress, as well as being a pain in the ass to the general big bidness types.

One thing for certain their is a Chinese somewhere that layed the curse on us, for we do indeed live in interesting times!

ah what the hell GO DENNIS GO!!!! heheh

edti speelnig
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:09 AM
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39. NeoGore is the One
Maybe Kucinich would agree to be Vice President? :D


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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:04 AM
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67. ahh.....Neo-Gore....where is he these days...? n/t
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:09 AM
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33. Yeah, Dennis!
Way to go! Prosecute those (#*%(#)@#$34ers!

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:32 AM
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35. You have my vote on that for sure! K*R
:kick:

The power structure likes to talk about their role as "adults" (remember that garbage after 9/11) and
how people need to have "consequences" and bear "personal responsibility." Well, time to walk to the walk. Seems to me planning a preemptive war based on motives other than national security and then carrying it out constitutes a "high crime." at least.

Thanks for the threat and the great art! :patriot:

This guy's first in the docket.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:13 AM
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36. Thanks buddy
:pals:
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:44 AM
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38. Kucinich...the People's President!
Vote for bringing Democracy to America!


(too late to recommend but I can sure kick this!)

Thanks for this, Swamp Rat. He is our only hope to seek justice for the lives that have been snuffed out, damaged and destroyed by those criminals who now control us!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:14 AM
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40. DK is the ONLY candidate
Telling the unvarnished TRUTH!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:16 AM
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41. Liebling!
:hug: :loveya:

Guten Tag!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:59 AM
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43. Ich drucke Dich!!!
:hug::loveya::hug:
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:16 AM
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47. That's the whole reason I'm voting for him. Go Dennis! n/t
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 10:16 AM by Wizard777
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:18 AM
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48. Dennis was on Bill Moyers Friday nite
he was on right after Ron Paul, here's the link if anyone wants to check him out.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:31 PM
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49. Thanks alyce douglas
:hug:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:32 PM
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50. Kick
Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:34 PM
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51. More politicians need to strive to become more like Dennis.
True courage of conviction.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:34 PM
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52. And that's why I support Dennis for president.
:patriot:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:41 PM
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53. Is having the president tell US Atty's what cases to bring now a good thing?
Thanks, but I'll take my prosecutions with a dollop of independence, thank you.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:58 PM
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54. Straw Man















:kick:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:03 PM
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55. non response
Why is it a straw man?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:11 PM
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56. I don't fish for Red Herring either.
;) Thanks for supporting Kucinich by kicking this thread. :hi:

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:18 PM
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57. i don't mind kicking it. If you think this thread is going to get Kucinich the nomination
I have bridge that I'll sell you so you can fish from there.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:19 PM
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58. How do we live with ourselves if we don't?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:26 PM
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60. Good question
I wish the other candidates and their supporters would 'stop, look, and listen'.


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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:19 AM
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62. I'm shamed by it all
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:19 PM
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59. Of all the candidates running, Kucinich is the only one who gets the right idea!
BRAVO!!!!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:18 PM
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61. To bad many people still do not even know who he is due to the M$M blackout.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:22 AM
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64. I was rooting for DK
Still am.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:23 AM
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65. I ask this as a serious question: By what authority does a President have to prosecute someone?
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 10:23 AM by aikoaiko

:shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:02 AM
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66. Thanks....! Kick!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:04 PM
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68. Thank you
:kick:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:10 PM
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